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  • IronDanHamza
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    #31
    Originally posted by CubanGuyNYC
    That doesn't mean those weren't intentional as well. lol

    In a court of law, I wouldn't convict Danny of intentionally punching Lucas in the nuts; but so many, right on target, like a heat-seeking missile, is very su****ious. Mind you, I consider everything in a fight fair game. It's up to the ref to enforce the rules and the opponent to give it right back if the official is negligent in his duties. If I were Lucas, I would've smashed Garcia in the sack the first chance I got.
    Perhaps

    I personally think it's more of just the way he throws his shots.

    I agree Matthysse should have gone it back, then again, he hit him on the back of the head a few times.

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    • CubanGuyNYC
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      #32
      Originally posted by Public_Enemy
      I doubt those low blows were intentional and Matthysse pulled his head down more than once. That's part of these why it kept happening.
      Intentional or not, Garcia got away with quite a few low blows. Weeks finally called him on it in the last round.

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      • SplitSecond
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        #33
        Originally posted by CubanGuyNYC
        If you thought Matthysse was that dominant in the eleventh, you had to score it 10-9 Garcia, since Danny scored a knockdown.
        dont get it but if you and hamza say so....

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        • CubanGuyNYC
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          #34
          Originally posted by IronDanHamza
          Perhaps

          I personally think it's more of just the way he throws his shots.

          I agree Matthysse should have gone it back, then again, he hit him on the back of the head a few times.
          This is true. Matthysse even hit Garcia in the back in early action. The difference was that Danny's motion made Lucas hit the back of his head (and back) by missing his target. (Garcia got a couple of those in, too. lol) Danny repeatedly hit Matthysse square in the balls. This all happened while Lucas was standing directly in front of him.

          Anyway, I don't want to harp on it too much. I don't know how much effect it had on the fight. It's just annoying when guys foul repeatedly and the ref allows it.

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          • CubanGuyNYC
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            #35
            Originally posted by TheHolyCross
            dont get it but if you and hamza say so....
            It's a ten point "must" system. The only time the winner of a round gets less than ten points is if they get deducted a point for a foul.

            Usually, the winner of a round, if he also scores a knockdown, gets awarded 10-8. You thought Matthysse was so dominant that he would've won the round 10-8, if not for the knockdown. So you have to score it 10-9 Garcia. You can't make it 9-9, taking a point from Garcia.

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            • daggum
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              #36
              i would like to know how cj ross scored this fight

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              • SplitSecond
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                #37
                Originally posted by CubanGuyNYC
                It's a ten point "must" system. The only time the winner of a round gets less than ten points is if they get deducted a point for a foul.

                Usually, the winner of a round, if he also scores a knockdown, gets awarded 10-8. You thought Matthysse was so dominant that he would've won the round 10-8, if not for the knockdown. So you have to score it 10-9 Garcia. You can't make it 9-9, taking a point from Garcia.
                i see it as

                since you usually take a point from the guy who loses a round(both starting at 10-10 in each rd), that's why i put it like that, thought garcia lost the rd(so point deduction), but matthysse also had to lose a point for getting kd'd

                but i getcha

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                • hitman smax
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                  As far as I'm aware, if a fighter scores a knockdown the automatically win the Round and the other fighter is deducted a point.

                  I.e a 10-8 Round.
                  That's actually not the way it works. People think a knockdown automatically constitutes a 10-8 round, but in actuality, a knock down is merely the same as a point being deducted.

                  The reason it's often viewed as a 10-8 round is because, in most cases, the knockdown is enough to also convince the scoring judge that the fighter who caused the knockdown also won the round.

                  In this case, however, the opposite is true. The knockdown wasn't significant enough to influence the scoring of the round, it was more like a flash knockdown.

                  I scored the round 9-9. Aside from the knockdown, Matthysse was in clear control of that round.

                  Not that it matters. Garcia did enough to justify a win here, although not in convincing fashion.

                  The two really need to fight again. For some reason, however, I don't see it happening. I think Garcia's camp were reluctant to fight Matthysse in the first place. And, now that they've seen him fight 6 rounds with 1 eye, with reasonable effectiveness, I'm sure they have even less interest in doing it again.

                  Hope I'm wrong.

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                  • brickcityboxing
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by hitman smax
                    That's actually not the way it works. People think a knockdown automatically constitutes a 10-8 round, but in actuality, a knock down is merely the same as a point being deducted.

                    The reason it's often viewed as a 10-8 round is because, in most cases, the knockdown is enough to also convince the scoring judge that the fighter who caused the knockdown also won the round.

                    In this case, however, the opposite is true. The knockdown wasn't significant enough to influence the scoring of the round, it was more like a flash knockdown.

                    I scored the round 9-9. Aside from the knockdown, Matthysse was in clear control of that round.

                    Not that it matters. Garcia did enough to justify a win here, although not in convincing fashion.

                    The two really need to fight again. For some reason, however, I don't see it happening. I think Garcia's camp were reluctant to fight Matthysse in the first place. And, now that they've seen him fight 6 rounds with 1 eye, with reasonable effectiveness, I'm sure they have even less interest in doing it again.

                    Hope I'm wrong.
                    10 point must ???

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                    • damit305
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                      #40
                      Saw the fight again and had it the same as Saturday night.

                      1: 10-9 Lucas
                      2: 10-9 Lucas
                      3: 10-9 Danny
                      4: 10-9 Danny
                      5: 10-9 Lucas
                      6: 10-9 Lucas
                      7: 10-9 Danny
                      8: 10-9 Danny
                      9: 10-9 Danny
                      10:10-9 Danny
                      11:10-8 Danny
                      12:10-8 Lucas

                      114-112 UD Danny Garcia

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