Comments Thread For: Mares: Canelo's Big Mistake, Trying To Box Mayweather

[ADP02]

Ellerbe stated that Team Mayweather are fully aware of Canelo's weaknesses and that they knew that Floyd would be able to take advantage ...... Ellerbe was aware and said that is why he approved the fight.

Just look at the Trout fight. Canelo fought Floyd like he fought Trout so not sure what others were expecting. Floyd is quicker than Trout and has better defense. Canelo had to "chase" more, cut the ring more and have a higher work rate, pressure more, use his size more but that is NOT Canelo. Canelo was pacing himself yet he still looked tired.

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2 options

a) Try to box Floyd= zero chance

b) Try to wear him down with pressure and body punches and hope he tires more from that before you do from the punishment you will receive trying to fight your way inside= ??? chance

Floyd is complete , he don't get tired and he makes you get very tired trying to maneuver him onto punches , and then he makes you get more tired missing everything you throw , Floyd fcks them up in the head .

Look at him in the ring , no nerves , no anxiety , calm and collected in the zone , that mindset spells endurance , nobody in these upper weights is wearing Mayweather down .

Only hope is to catch him with a bomb and take him out , if you cant do that then you will not beat Floyd today , Floyds mind is twice what it was in the 130s time frame .

[tlaloc]

100% agree. Why do people insist on thinking they can 't outbox Floyd in the center of the ring? That should NEVER be a part of the game plan, if it is, it should only be in brief moments as to not allow Floyd to figure you out.

These guys think they are going to time him or something and they always lose. You need to pressure and trap him, don't give him either time or space.

I think Mayweather never fought Pacquio or Margarito because he knows that he will not be able to break them down mentally, they will never stop coming unless you ko them and that will turn into a real fight something Mayweather don't wannna be part of

[itiswhatitis]

Canelo needs Nacho in his corner. He fought well even though he fought the wrong style against Floyd. Floyd never lookd in total control, he did not look comfortable in there and that's why the fight was kinda boring, I expected more action from both.

I really believe that Canelo can beat Mayweather if he gets Nacho in his corner and they fight a different style and of course make the fight at 154lbs.

lol What fight were you watching?

[mathed]

Canelo is not a brawler , if he bum rushed Floyd like Hatton did , be messy for a few rounds but the moment Floyds got room its business as usual and now you aint got the strength to go in .

Floyd is soooooooo hard to beat as his game is so complete , his balance and positioning is keeping big strong guys off him , he is like the rubber man .

The only times he has looked semi-vulnerable, he has been pressured by the other guy. If Canelo had really studied that much tape, he would know that giving Floyd space and time to operate are the worst things you can do. Canelo is very fast but Mayweather's reflexes are too good for you to not prepare for counter shots after you punch.

He needed to make this fight ugly, even if it wasn't a natural progression for him, that's what has shown to be most effective on Floyd. He could have taken that approach and then let his youth and physical attributes fill in the gaps instead of using his physical attributes as the game plan itself.

[FrankieClutch]

I agree, but as people are saying: Canelo fought the way he knows how to fight. He just got outpointed by the better man

[mathed]

I think Mayweather never fought Pacquio or Margarito because he knows that he will not be able to break them down mentally, they will never stop coming unless you ko them and that will turn into a real fight something Mayweather don't wannna be part of

I think he never fought Pac because of Pac's unique style. The way he punches combined with his speed, would be a big risk for Floyd to take. He isn't orthodox by any means and you can't predict where the punches are coming from which constitutes a large portion of Floyd's defensive/offensive strategy.

Pac is mentally tough sure but he presents something that takes a little longer to figure out and with his speed and power, he might catch Floyd off guard with some odd-angled punch and he has the speed to make it happen. I think that is why Floyd has a decent regard for Bradley, yeah, it looked like he got caught with a TON of Pac's punches, but there is evidence to show that Tim caught many of those punches. Some were so fast, they looked like they landed but were picked off in partial seconds. Given that was Tim's first time on the big stage, I think Floyd knows that in a rematch Tim would have likely easily won (hence, why Pac and his team passed on the immediate rematch)

[mrpizza-nd_beer]

Let's just accept Canelo was too green for Mayweather. Where Castillo, Cotto, and Dela Hoya succeeded were the smarts you don't just learn at 23. He has the talent alright but with no experience he just didn't know how to deal with a mega fighter like Floyd.

No wonder Floyd said okay to fighting him now.

I really doubt Floyd could outsmart Manny. Really doubt it.

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The only times he has looked semi-vulnerable, he has been pressured by the other guy. If Canelo had really studied that much tape, he would know that giving Floyd space and time to operate are the worst things you can do. Canelo is very fast but Mayweather's reflexes are too good for you to not prepare for counter shots after you punch.

He needed to make this fight ugly, even if it wasn't a natural progression for him, that's what has shown to be most effective on Floyd. He could have taken that approach and then let his youth and physical attributes fill in the gaps instead of using his physical attributes as the game plan itself.

That's my point its easy to say make the fight look ugly when your not an ugly kinda fighter , be telling Brandon Rios box like Floyd , sounds good in the dressing room , and the moment Floyd is a few feet away everything is not what they thought it was going to be .

You cannot be wild and messy with Floyd , because you will not land anything substantial and 12 rnds is a long way to go in the first .

Boxing is very cerebral , at the very highest level of the sport fighting is brains , casual fans wont ever understand that , to them its just a fight .

[tlaloc]

Honestly the fight was kinda boring, I like both fighters but I do always cheer for the Mexican fighters because theyre my pp. as Mex fight fan I like to see action and if my fighter is gonna lose I think it should still be exciting fight. At least drop the other fighter you know.. Personally to me Maywather-Canelo was not a beat down I feel like the fight was barely starting, like i'm still waiting for something exciting to happen.