Comments Thread For: Canelo: Mayweather's Not A Dirty Fighter, But ...

[SugarAnt05]

Shane is talking about a cheap shot? He shouldn't have been talking in the ring. He got what he deserved. He crashed my man's post fight interview in the ring and said all that he needed to say then. When the bell rang on their fight, it wasn't time to talk. They weren't there to throw words. They were there to throw punches. Protect yourself at all times. Ready or not, here comes that right hand. Lol You got socked!

Good post. I hate when boxer's talk and touch gloves in the ring during a fight. FU UKKS DAT ISH its a fight, dont show your opponent an ounce of respect. You hug and blow each other after the fight if you want but when the bell rings its time to fight.

[BoxingFan82]

before the trout fight, nobody said Canelo gassed. Not many had even seen a canelo fight. But since he's patient and doesn't swing like a madman giong for the ko, "he gasses".

That's not true. I've seen most of Canelo's televised fights and his stamina issues are visible in just about all of them. It's often very apparent in the depth of his breathing.

The use of the word gas is misleading. While Canelo's stamina shortcomings were abundantly clear in the Trout fight, you can have poor cardiovascular conditioning (relative to the sport you're in) without becoming incapacitated.

Thus far, Canelo's opposition has allowed him to win despite his conditioning. For the most part, he has fought smaller opponents who he can hurt and who thus have allowed him to work at a comfortable, slower pace. Canelo might be a patient fighter, but I don't know how you can watch his fights and not see a guy who is deliberately moderating his output.

When you throw in the fact that Canelo is cutting so much weight to fight in lower divisions, his stamina issues are to be expected. The effects of weight cutting are well established and it would be very rare to see a guy cutting 20+ pounds for a fight who has the conditioning of, say, a Floyd Mayweather.

[Elotero]

Guerrero is a dirty fighter. Mayweather out dirtied him. Saw him turn a regular head-push-down to a guillotine choke. May rushes in with his elbows and forearms too. He gets away with it so more power to him but that **** is dirt. What do they say, if you aint cheatin you aint tryin?

I still say May beats Canelo by UD

Garcia beats Matthyse by KO

Ishe wins UD

[turnedup]

That's not true. I've seen most of Canelo's televised fights and his stamina issues are visible in just about all of them. It's often very apparent in the depth of his breathing.

The use of the word gas is misleading. While Canelo's stamina shortcomings were abundantly clear in the Trout fight, you can have poor cardiovascular conditioning (relative to the sport you're in) without becoming incapacitated.

Thus far, Canelo's opposition has allowed him to win despite his conditioning. For the most part, he has fought smaller opponents who he can hurt and who thus have allowed him to work at a comfortable, slower pace. Canelo might be a patient fighter, but I don't know how you can watch his fights and not see a guy who is deliberately moderating his output.

When you throw in the fact that Canelo is cutting so much weight to fight in lower divisions, his stamina issues are to be expected. The effects of weight cutting are well established and it would be very rare to see a guy cutting 20+ pounds for a fight who has the conditioning of, say, a Floyd Mayweather.

Well according to Brother Naz...Danny Garcia walks around upwards of 165..it can be found on fighthype from late last year/early this year...but I will never forget that shttt. This weight cutting shh has just gotten crazy in boxing. Regarding Canelo, I think him like a few others in boxing tend to over train..then add the rehydration and yeah those first few days will be rough on your system yet I don't think it's as bad as Chavez Jr...Jr looks like he's 220 right now.

[J The UnBiased]

If that's all you think this kid can do you clearly haven't been paying attention. Trout's chin learned the hard way about meeting this kid in the center of the ring.

Really? I don't think Trout learned much because when he got up.......he went back to the center of the ring and arguably won the fight (I scored it a draw, but wasn't upset at the decision). He also began walking him down as Canelo began to gas. But I think even you can admit that Canelo's best chances in the fight will come from getting Floyd on the ropes. Canelo has boxing ability and decent hand speed but his feet are terrible for center ring action with a guy like Floyd coming off a performance like the Robert fight. All training camp the mans been letting his feet do the work for him, not to mention he's throwing the most combinations I've ever seen him throw since moving up to 147. I think a lot of people are so used to Floyd being Floyd that they don't even consider what new wrinkles he'll bring to the ring. Not accusing you, but Floyd is also a student of the game that learns new things every training day. Anything can happen in that ring, but this camp, Floyd looks unbeatable and the catchweight won't do Canelo any favors.

[Hallaqsillaq]

You know damn well trout ain't Floyd, and Floyd getting buckled like trout in the center of the ring is bull****!!! Lol come on bro. Floyd rarely gets caught flush like that. It's Finna be a masterclass once again. Floyd sees all the tendencies and mistakes of this kid. And him tying to correct them now???? See she you in that ring getting caugh unexpectedly you forget all that **** you been training for and you revert to the habits you have. Floyd camp even told Shane that about that pitty pat jab. But once Shane started getting timed he reverted.


Canelo will get stopped mark my words......

Willing to get too

Man, SFTU. Floyd's not a god. A decrepit Shane Mosley buckled his ass and he clung for dear life to his arms. Canelo can land that kind of shot just as well.

[radioraheem]

Actually Floyd does it a lot and your not supposed to elevate the elbow like that because it can cause cuts and many opponents of his have complained.

Again, at the end of the day, they will let Floyd do what he does and won't warn him for it because he's the champ.

I just think he does clinch too much, does push your head down, and uses his forearm as a weapon. Believe me, that **** gets so frustrating when you are boxing as I have had fighters do that to me.

Anyway, Canelo is going to have to deal with it like everyone else.

Floyd Mayweather, in most recent fights, hardly used his elbows. It's the Rick Hatton fight where he used it quite a bit. Re-watch the fight with Guerrero, and you'll see that he rarely used his elbows, if at all.

In the Guerrero fight though, he did clinch a lot. But that was strategic, because Guerrero is very much an inside fighter who likes to dogfight. And that's where Guerrero also does most of his 'dirty' work too. Guerrero fights best in the inside. Floyd took that inside play away with Guerrero, and one way he did that was with the clinching.

But if you backtrack to the Cotto fight, Floyd hardly clinched and put heads down as much as you try to say he does. And he hardly used his elbows too in the Cotto fight. You guys are just so blindly overcritical, you imagine what you want these days.

[b Murphington]

Floyd doesn't take a fight unless there is no doubt in his mind that he can/will win, he makes sure that he can beat his opponent...cuz his record means so much to him that he wont take a risk

that is seriously all u need to know

another floyd win

[Carpe Diem]

Floyd doesn't take a fight unless there is no doubt in his mind that he can/will win, he makes sure that he can beat his opponent...cuz his record means so much to him that he wont take a risk

that is seriously all u need to know

another floyd win

Pathetic excuses. In boxing anything can happen, and no one is invincible. Manny and his camp took an obvious recycling cherrypick fight against an aging Marquez and it backfired. This is a fight that Floyd can lose even if he win(Pacquiao-Bradley).

[Sosay]

Carp Diem, good post. I'm tired of that excuse also. Anything can happen in the ring. Everyone calls Floyd or Pac a cherry-picker. But I cant think of any fighters on top, who's opponents aren't hand picked (cherry). You're only avoided if you aren't a draw. No one is scared of anyone in boxing.

May the best man win!