Can you really blame Floyd for being a ducker?

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  • MR PUNCHOUT
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    #21
    Originally posted by BIG GUNZ
    Than why did Floyd all of a sudden "retire" back in 2008? He seen how much talent was in the welterweight division at the time & didn't want any part of it. With Margarito just watch the video on youtube from 2006 I believe it was from, Floyd was clearly scared of him. I know Floyd would have most likely won, but he still didn't fight him. He turned down 8 million to fight him, an insane amount of money for Floyd at the time.
    Idk why he retired do you? I mean do you have prof or it's just you speculating that he was scared? That video don't mean ****, it's obvious that may saw something that wasn't right abt him and guess what he was a f***ing cheater that almost ruined cottos career! So don't blame may for being smart and identifying a cheater before he was cought!

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    • edgarg
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      #22
      Originally posted by Beercules
      Absolutely. Floyd is rightfully p4p number one but when has he really been tested? Cotto?

      Floyd has always had some sort of advantage in every fight.

      JMM moved up 2 weight classes and Floyd still didn't honor the CW
      Guerrero only had 3 fights at 147 including Floyd.
      Ortiz was ktfo in a very shameful manner; especially coming from the high standard Floyd is held to.
      Hatton was a good win but he was also moving up.

      If Floyd beats Canelo, which I think he will but it WONT be easy then we can appreciate his skills. But I have a weird feeling about this fight. Floyd hasn't been tested the way Canelo will test him in a long time. I don't read into the ghost fight at all. Canelo isn't ghost
      Hatton wasn't moving up, he'd tried that for Collazo and said "not for me". He was the 140 lb champ and took the fight because of the money. And then the ****** "you can foul but I'm firm" imbecile prevented him from infighting, at which he excelled.

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      • Frank Ducketts
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        #23
        Who did he duck?

        I hope you have some new names this time because if it's the same old list of fighters that he's accused of ducking, you can forget that he ducked them.

        You can't duck inferior fighters.

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        • Frank Ducketts
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          #24
          Originally posted by edgarg
          Hatton wasn't moving up, he'd tried that for Collazo and said "not for me". He was the 140 lb champ and took the fight because of the money. And then the ****** "you can foul but I'm firm" imbecile prevented him from infighting, at which he excelled.
          He didn't prevent him from infighting. He prevented him from holding and hitting.

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          • BIG GUNZ
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            #25
            Originally posted by harwri008
            This is like the "when did you stop beating your wife" argument. My question is how can blame Floyd when he's never been a ducker?" There's an obvious different standard for Mayweather. Everyone Mayweather beat is a carefully handpicked opponent chosen only for the reason to preserve his 0 loss. Anyone else beat that same opponent and no question it's a legit win.

            Not really true since Floyd CLEARLY avoided fights. That's the problem people have with him. Also, when does anyone give credit to Canelo for beating a way past his prime Mosley like Mayweather & Pacquiao did too? It's just a known name added to their resumes, but it doesn't mean almost anything at all for any of them since they didn't fight him in his prime. Also, when do you ever hear anyone ever talking about anyone beating Baldomir & Sharmba Mitchell?

            Mayweather does have some good wins though. His wins against De La Hoya, Castillo, Judah, & Hatton were all solid.

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            • -Huey-
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              #26
              Oh, look...the millionth Floyd hate thread. *YAWN*

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              • Frank Ducketts
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                #27
                Originally posted by BIG GUNZ
                Not really true since Floyd CLEARLY avoided fights. That's the problem people have with him. Also, when does anyone give credit to Canelo for beating a way past his prime Mosley like Mayweather & Pacquiao did too? It's just a known name added to their resumes, but it doesn't mean almost anything at all for any of them since they didn't fight him in his prime. Also, when do you ever hear anyone ever talking about anyone beating Baldomir & Sharmba Mitchell?

                Mayweather does have some good wins though. His wins against De La Hoya, Castillo, Judah, & Hatton were all solid.
                Alt powerrrrr!

                So who did he duck?

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                • DuttyAlacrity
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Frank Ducketts
                  He didn't prevent him from infighting. He prevented him from holding and hitting.
                  Very nice. Green k

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                  • richardt
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                    #29
                    I think he has taken on many top fighters and champs and I blame him AND Pac for their fight not happening. I guess I'm not part of the ducking crew as far as thinking he did a lot of ducking.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Frank Ducketts
                      Who did he duck?

                      I hope you have some new names this time because if it's the same old list of fighters that he's accused of ducking, you can forget that he ducked them.

                      You can't duck inferior fighters.
                      I think floyd gets unfairly criticized for 96-2006 opponents,,
                      guys like prince, cotto, hatton were not going to fight a mayweather because he was a huge threat, and may didnt bring the $$$$$ back then,, guys like oscar, tito, roy, morales, mab, shane, vargas, those were the cash cows back then..

                      But since the oscar fight, floyd has been the top draw and cash cow, and could make any fight he wanted to, and he shared the same mantle as ali, srl, and oscar as their generations top draws and the face of boxing,,
                      Now look at their resumes when they were the cash cows and compare to floyd's since 2007,, Floyd's resume as the cash cow is very weak compared to guys in history that held the spot he has,,,

                      Yes its true that floyds opponents for anyone else would be a great list, but not for the guy that is p4p #1 of his generation and the biggest draw of the sport,, with credentials like that, floyd has an underwhelming resume, more in line with roy jones and tyson, than oscar, srl, ali

                      Not going to try and name all the fighters he has "ducked" since 2007 but we all know the names and i dont expect him to fight everyone under the sun, but he could have some better fights on his resume since 2007

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