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  • Andyreww
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    #111
    Originally posted by El Angel
    I like how you picked that part out of it. If you can't make 144, you and your body size is a natural WW. Simple.

    Larry is a diehard Floyd fan and even he isn't defending the CW.
    So he just changed... and suddenly he started growing in his late 20's to the point he couldnt make 144 anymore...

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    • richardt
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      #112
      Originally posted by Andyreww
      How about you prove the article is correct? Maybe Canelo's team didnt expect Floyd to accept at 154?
      I said I have an article that details that Floyd asked for 147, then 150 and Shafer finally got them to agree on 152. Now you put the damn money up or shut up. You lose the money unless YOU can prove the article was incorrect. Put up or shut up.
      Last edited by richardt; 09-08-2013, 08:33 PM.

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      • El Angel
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        #113
        Originally posted by Andyreww
        So he just changed... and suddenly he started growing in his late 20's to the point he couldnt make 144 anymore...
        Growing as in adding additional muscle by working out to make the WW limit? Yeah that's pretty much what happened. Didn't Hopkins move up to LHW in his 40's?

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        • richardt
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          #114
          If Floyd was afraid of fighting the bigger Canelo, no one would have complained if Floyd had set a same-day weight limit and drop the one thing that made him look like a hypocrite, a Catchweight. I would have respected him.

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          • Andyreww
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            #115
            Originally posted by El Angel
            Growing as in adding additional muscle by working out to make the WW limit? Yeah that's pretty much what happened. Didn't Hopkins move up to LHW in his 40's?
            Okay, but Floyd could grow to 200lbs.. and if he can't make 180lbs in 2 weeks.. hes not a natural 147er!

            Muscle and natural body frame have NOTHING in common.. you are actually ridiculously ******.

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            • Andyreww
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              #116
              Originally posted by richardt
              I said I have an article that details that Floyd asked for 147, then 150 and Shafer finally got them to agree on 152. Now you put the damn money up or shut up. You lose the money unless YOU can prove the article was incorrect. Put up or shut up.
              Prove the article is correct.

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              • ADP02
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                #117
                Originally posted by Andyreww
                I'm defintely being serious...

                Margarito is a 5'11 fighter who weighed in at 147 on fight nights and ballooned up.. what does that tell you.. he drank 15lbs worth of water in a night? erm.. no..

                Cotto wanted the fight at 154lbs against Floyd.. why if he's strongest at 147-150lbs?

                Hatton thought about suicide and was taking countless drugs and ballooned up to over 180lbs after Floyd.. he was more than shot.

                Cotto just came off a sensational win against margarito using good footwork and boxing skills.

                Oscar was very much still in his prime against Floyd... he fought Floyd at 154lbs and Pacquiao at 145lbs. +4 years how can you actually compare this...? Pacquiao came up to his natural weight (he weighs more than Floyd on fight night)

                Canelo Canelo struggled because he actually fought a big named boxer... he's been fighting cab drivers his whole career... he weighed in at his usual weight.. why was his stamina different? oh.. because he actually had to box..?

                Show me your evidence for Floyd's team demanding a catch weight?
                Margarito : Did not show stamina issues at 147 and in fact had a great work-rate. Go ask Cotto ... Margarito was all over him from round 1 to the end.


                Cotto: Has a title at 154 but against Floyd it wouldn't make it better to fight at lower. Most people would understand all this. Cotto fought 3 questionable opponents at 154. One was limping, one fought with one eye and the other was all bark no bite. You figure out which was which! So don't pretend that Cotto fought and beat guys that made you say the word "sensational" as that would be a joke!

                Oscar: Go check out his record. He hardly fought prior to Floyd and had a very average record. Most people thought he should have been 1-4 in his last 5 fights if you include Floyd's loss as they believe that he got a gift win in one of those fights.

                Canelo: Canelo is growing and didn't make his CW and struggled to make 152, several years ago. When Floyd's team heard part of Canelo's strategy to "move". They laughed and said "Good, we want that because Canelo has terrible stamina issues".

                Floyd: So Canelo wanted the CW? Like I said, are you serious?

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                • Andyreww
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                  #118
                  Originally posted by ADP02
                  Margarito : Did not show stamina issues at 147 and in fact had a great work-rate. Go ask Cotto ... Margarito was all over him from round 1 to the end.


                  Cotto: Has a title at 154 but against Floyd it wouldn't make it better to fight at lower. Most people would understand all this. Cotto fought 3 questionable opponents at 154. One was limping, one fought with one eye and the other was all bark no bite. You figure out which was which! So don't pretend that Cotto fought and beat guys that made you say the word "sensational" as that would be a joke!

                  Oscar: Go check out his record. He hardly fought prior to Floyd and had a very average record. Most people thought he should have been 1-4 in his last 5 fights if you include Floyd's loss as they believe that he got a gift win in one of those fights.

                  Canelo: Canelo is growing and didn't make his CW and struggled to make 152, several years ago. When Floyd's team heard part of Canelo's strategy to "move". They laughed and said "Good, we want that because Canelo has terrible stamina issues".

                  Floyd: So Canelo wanted the CW? Like I said, are you serious?
                  So Margarito just developed one eye when he went to 154... but he was great at 147.. I swear...

                  It would make more sense for Cotto to fight at his best weight... no? do explain...

                  De La hoya was at 154lbs with him choosing the gloves... he fought pacquiao at 145 a year or so later.

                  Canelo is 23.. he's finished growing a long time ago, and he has terrible stamina issues because he's built like a middleweight...

                  Next question.

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                  • ADP02
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                    #119
                    Originally posted by Andyreww
                    But he knocked out Manny at 147... but he's **** at 144? LOL..
                    It appears you have a terrible sense of time. When Floyd fought Marquez, Marquez NEVER fought at 140 nor 147 and had just moved up to 135. Marquez was in unknown territory. Also, style's make fights. Marquez vs Manny was a great rivalry. At 147, it was a question of whether Marquez can adapt to that weight. By then, he had several fights at that weight and adjusted ..... unlike Floyd, who has a title there, still required a CW at 154 for his 3rd fight there

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                    • richardt
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                      #120
                      Originally posted by Andyreww
                      Prove the article is correct.
                      No, duma$$ you have to prove that it is a lie. I said Floyd demanded the fight be made at less that 154 and I have 2 articles showing it. And you get to look like a big fool and prove that Canelo demanded 152 in order to counter the articles. I'll get a laugh out of that one. Put the money up or shut up. $100. Why the hell do you think they are fighting at 152??!!!!!! Whose side do you think demanded 152???!!! Are you that ***ing clueless??????
                      Last edited by richardt; 09-08-2013, 08:52 PM.

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