People whining about canelo losing 2 lbs..

[Andyreww]

Tell us something we don't know already. Catchweights are either ALL wrong or ALL right, there is no way to say its okay for one fighter and not another.

You keep saying Floyd asked for this.. when you don't know that...

Maybe the fight should of been at 147lbs for the welterweight title?

De la hoya was the big star... and Floyd had to move up?

Maybe Canelo should of moved down

Pacquiao drains his opponents, canelo is not drained by losing 1 lb.

[richardt]

Most people are not "whining about 2 pounds", they are complaining about the hypocrisy that Floyd show when he insulted Pac, then said he is NOT that type of guy and wants fighters at their best weight and then demanded a catchweight. Its one thing to do catchweights, it's another for a star to insult another star and then do the same damn thing!

[Andyreww]

Oscar fought at 150 the fight before Manny and at 54 2 fights before that.hadnt fought at 160 for years and was fat there when he did,plus he didnt bring oscar anywhere Oscar did that to himself


And Floyd is a 2 time 154 champion and the #1 contender there so kill that noise

Floyd has performed terribly at 154...

He can't even make 154 at the weigh in and loses weight on fight night.

Regardless, he was a middleweight fighter... just like you're saying floyd is a 154 pounder..

De la hoya went from 154lbs to 145lbs for manny...

Canelo is going from 153 on weigh ins to 152...

HARDLY THE SAME?

[Andyreww]

Most people are not "whining about 2 pounds", they are complaining about the hypocrisy that Floyd show when he insulted Pac, then said he is NOT that type of guy and wants fighters at their best weight and then demanded a catchweight. Its one thing to do catchweights, it's another for a star to insult another star and then do the same damn thing!

Show me where Floyd demanded this catchweight.

[ADP02]

If you look at the difference in weight Margarito for example at 150 and he's 154 fighter...

Cotto at 145 -9lbs from his strongest weight.

Hatton was already shot...

I'll not waste my time in telling you how many fights Floyd went 'down' for... but I'll tell you how many fights he's generally been outweighed +10 lbs in the ring...

I think he means you use your common sense, if weight made no difference he'd fight Vitali then...

he's fought at 154lb twice, and performed far far from his best, so perhaps he's realised he's not great at that weight class? is that a crime?

Oscar is a natural 154 fighter.. he weighed in at 145lbs for the pacquiao fight..

CANELO IS COMING DOWN JUST OVER 1LB FROM WHAT HE NORMALLY WEIGHS.

stop this nonsense.

Also.. Oscar's fought a middleweight... 160lbs.. so based on what you say with floyd...

De La Hoya lost 15lbs to fight pacquiao?

Are you being serious here?

Margarito was a career 147 fighter. He had a bonus of 3lbs for that fight. The issue was more that it was a title fight at a CW and Margarito getting the opportunity not that Margarito was going to be drained.

Cotto: Back then held a title at 147 NOT 154. Even now, many people on this forum have been saying that Cotto is NOT a true 154 fighter and should have gone down. Especially after losing to Trout. Cotto also asked for a CW against Margarito to fight at 150-151 a year ago. Why if he is so strong at 154? lol!

Hatton: Manny fought him at a weight where Hatton was KING (140). Hatton was very average in his only fight at 147 but did Floyd fight him at a CW so it was fair for Hatton? Remember, it's not about Hatton's weight as some Floyd fans may suggest. It's about where Hatton is effective at. History will show that it was at 140 NOT 147 ..... but the most laughable part of all this is that you said that Hatton was shot. So then what about Cotto vs Floyd? Cotto was already in many wars that he lost badly by then but you forgot, no?

Oscar: Oscar out of prime and not as active (more a promoter) for both Manny and Floyd. You forget to mention that Manny was 1 fight away from going up 3 divisions!!! For Manny, Oscar's previous fight was at 150 so all Oscar had to do was go down 3lbs (similar to Canelo). Also, Oscar had already made weight BEFORE the weigh-in. Yet, everyone here says that he was drained even though Oscar said he was in great shape .... Like you said, must be nonsense. Right?

Floyd: Crime no, hypocrite yes! Both have title at 154.

Canelo: It's not just the weight that is important. It's how effective Canelo will be. Going by his last fight, Canelo struggled with a low work-rate and had stamina issues. So if he needs to go down 2lbs more, he may make the weight but may not be as affective. We need to see the fight to be sure though.

Floyd's team laughs about Canelo's only advantages over Floyd. They used a CW to limit the size advantage and say that even though Canelo has youth, he also has lot's of stamina issues and fights flat-footed.

[HeroBando]

Floyd has performed terribly at 154...

He can't even make 154 at the weigh in and loses weight on fight night.

Regardless, he was a middleweight fighter... just like you're saying floyd is a 154 pounder..

De la hoya went from 154lbs to 145lbs for manny...

Canelo is going from 153 on weigh ins to 152...

HARDLY THE SAME?

Strange how skills stop paying the bills in your 5th division. Someone should tell Marquez his inferior skills, athleticism and older age are not gonna work in his 5th.

[richardt]

You keep saying Floyd asked for this.. when you don't know that...

Maybe the fight should of been at 147lbs for the welterweight title?

De la hoya was the big star... and Floyd had to move up?

Maybe Canelo should of moved down

Pacquiao drains his opponents, canelo is not drained by losing 1 lb.

Don't know that Floyd demanded the Catchweight????? Are you ***ing serious???!!!! Who the hell do you think demanded it??? Oh, I get it, Canelo demanded that he fight at 152, lol. Take your pick, either Floyd demanded it or Canelo and you know DAMN WELL Canelo did not demand it. It doesn't MATTER if Canelo is drained or not, FLOYD SAID HE IS NOT THE KIND OF GUY, HE DOESN'T DO CATCHWEIGHTS!!! Guess what?? HE contradicted himself and is a hypocrite and that is why the boards had a massive meltdown when people learned that Floyd did the SAME THING he accused Pac of doing when he signed the fight!

[El Angel]

I claimed his body size was that of a JWW, but I guess that is hard for you to comprehend what that means, because he didn't boil down his MUSCLE

His body size? Then Paul Williams was a ****ing LHW at WW. That's not how it works. He's a full fledged WW with a win over the number one ranked JMW at the full weight limit. He should've have fought Canelo there. He would've beat him there too and remove all criticism. He did it to himself.

[J The UnBiased]

Floyd trains 6 or 7 days a week to maintain in the 147 pound range. You think it's gonna be harder for him to get to 152 or for Canelo? You think it's easier to lose or gain weight? Hint.....70% of American's are overweight so there you have it.

Yet everyone cries about the Marquez Floyd fight lol

[richardt]

His body size? Then Paul Williams was a ****ing LHW at WW. That's not how it works. He's a full fledged WW with a win over the number one ranked JMW at the full weight limit. He should've have fought Canelo there. He would've beat him there too and remove all criticism. He did it to himself.

This says everything perfectly! Floyd fought a full junior middleweight TWICE and now is fighting a guy he did not allow to come in at the junior middleweight limit. He fought Oscar and Cotto at 154 but told Canelo, no, you cant do that! All he had to do was put a ring weight limit and drop the 152 and I would have applauded Floyd and never called him what he is, a hypocrite. I was a HUGE fan of Floyd's for over 10 years but it ended when he decided not to be his real self and take on a fake persona.