All access "Canelo's impressive time of 3:00 in the 800" wth.

[Joey_Torreo]

With all this talk about good an bad 800m times I wanna go out and see what my time would be and compare it to canelos

[-Jay-]

Seriously, 7000ft is not that high. As for the intervals thing, I was told Canelo is resting for 2 minutes or so, in which case it's highly relevant. Nobody here is going to convince me that his times are respectable for a professional athlete because they simply aren't. You'd get loads of guys on this forum who could do better and I'd put a good deal of money down on myself beating Canelo.

Honestly now, have you ever tried training at 7000ft? Its a lot harder than you give it credit for.

I tried running in Jasper National Park here in Alberta and really struggled, I run about 5kms at 3500ft or so without much trouble.

[T18Z]

Honestly now, have you ever tried training at 7000ft? Its a lot harder than you give it credit for.

I tried running in Jasper National Park here in Alberta and really struggled, I run aout 5kms at 3500ft or so without much trouble.

I'd ignore the napkin math he posted. One study is nothing in the grand scheme of journals, he'd need a list of multiple to have people believe what he is saying is correct.

Not to mention it's not taking into account equipment worn, the ground, incline, intervals or the temperature.

[r__mutt]

I've already covered this, but for the benefit of you and others, I'll cover it again. You can say you don't believe this if you want, but I trust the judgement of a respected professor in exercise physiology and coach of Olympic athletes who has researched the subject for decades over people on this forum. As this table shows, for 800m the difference between sea level and 10,000ft is 1.4s - and Big Bear is about 7000ft.

Predicted 0.8 km Finish Times by Altitude
Elevation Time min/km min/mile
sea level 2:59.5 3:44.4 6:01.2
1000 ft (305 m) 2:59.7 3:44.6 6:01.4
2000 ft (610 m) 2:59.8 3:44.8 6:01.7
3000 ft (914 m) 2:59.9 3:44.9 6:02.0
4000 ft (1219 m) 3:00.1 3:45.1 6:02.3
5000 ft (1524 m) 3:00.2 3:45.3 6:02.5
6000 ft (1829 m) 3:00.4 3:45.4 6:02.8
7000 ft (2134 m) 3:00.5 3:45.6 6:03.1
8000 ft (2438 m) 3:00.6 3:45.8 6:03.4
9000 ft (2743 m) 3:00.8 3:46.0 6:03.6
10000 ft (3048 m) 3:00.9 3:46.1 6:03.9
Calculations are based on data from Daniels' Running Formula by Jack Daniels PhD.

GTFO err'one knows Jack Daniels just makes whiskey. He ain't a doctor no mo' than Dr Pepper!

[firstborn]

Didn't realize there were so many track & field experts and boxing coaches on this forum......how on earth did Canelo make it past his last forty something fights without the advice of everyone on BS!

[Sake1]

What about the altitude?

[Da Machine]

Seriously, 7000ft is not that high. As for the intervals thing, I was told Canelo is resting for 2 minutes or so, in which case it's highly relevant. Nobody here is going to convince me that his times are respectable for a professional athlete because they simply aren't. You'd get loads of guys on this forum who could do better and I'd put a good deal of money down on myself beating Canelo.

You are acting like you are an expert, but anyone who has done actual interval training, and/or training at elevation knows you are clueless.

[Da Machine]

I'd ignore the napkin math he posted. One study is nothing in the grand scheme of journals, he'd need a list of multiple to have people believe what he is saying is correct.

Not to mention it's not taking into account equipment worn, the ground, incline, intervals or the temperature.

That study he posted calculates one time It doesn't factor in intervals... It's like taking the best time and seeing how elevation affects it for one run.

Does not factor in prior work outs, energy, and being tired during intervals.

[Da Machine]

Didn't realize there were so many track & field experts and boxing coaches on this forum......how on earth did Canelo make it past his last forty something fights without the advice of everyone on BS!

I was on a div 1 track team. Canelo's stamina is fine.

[ShoulderRoll]

lol.....

carl froch and joe calzaghe, perhaps. most brits wouldn't win a fight in the states. carson jones and ray beltran are heroic figures to the brits.

Ricky Burns might have gotten his jaw broken but he is better conditioned than Beltran doe!

Matthew Hatton lost to Canelo but I bet he would smoke his ass in an 800m sprint intervals competition.