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  • boliodogs
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    #91
    After seeing this on all access I understand this better. It looks like Canelo was timing himself over a half mile course that included some hills and he was making repeated runs over this course one after another. This is at about 7500 feet altitude which slows down your time. Considering these things his time of 2 minutes 56 seconds for 800 meters or about half a mile is OK. It's not anything special or a great time but it does not show weak stamina either. Canelo has a short stocky build that is not the best for long distance running. Running a course up and down hills at 7500 feet is going to slow down the times compared to running on a flat running track at sea level.

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    • Tay Roc
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      #92
      Originally posted by Sake1
      What about the altitude?
      OP we all want to know the answer to this.

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      • Sparked_26
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        #93
        Originally posted by New England
        lol.....

        carl froch and joe calzaghe, perhaps. most brits wouldn't win a fight in the states. carson jones and ray beltran are heroic figures to the brits.
        Why so defensive?

        Better conditioned doesn't mean better.

        Ricky Burns is a case in point. The fact he can reel off the last two rounds against Beltran to at least make it close on the cards with his chin hanging off is testament to his conditioning as much as his heart. Burns never looked tired despite taking a beating.

        There is an awful lot of stock held here in the physical fitness of fighters. But skills do pay bills.

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        • Sparked_26
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          #94
          Originally posted by ShoulderRoll


          Ricky Burns might have gotten his jaw broken but he is better conditioned than Beltran doe!

          Matthew Hatton lost to Canelo but I bet he would smoke his ass in an 800m sprint intervals competition.
          In all serious.

          He probably would.

          lol.

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          • ManOfVictory
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            #95
            thats y he is not in track&field dumb a55es


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            • ElMeroChingon
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              #96
              Originally posted by boliodogs
              After seeing this on all access I understand this better. It looks like Canelo was timing himself over a half mile course that included some hills and he was making repeated runs over this course one after another. This is at about 7500 feet altitude which slows down your time. Considering these things his time of 2 minutes 56 seconds for 800 meters or about half a mile is OK. It's not anything special or a great time but it does not show weak stamina either. Canelo has a short stocky build that is not the best for long distance running. Running a course up and down hills at 7500 feet is going to slow down the times compared to running on a flat running track at sea level.
              Lol, yeah and try doing that time in a diet with almost no carbs

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              • racer59
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                #97
                This thread is ******ed as phuck.

                There, someone had to point that out.

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                • B-Bomber
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                  #98
                  Originally posted by boliodogs
                  After seeing this on all access I understand this better. It looks like Canelo was timing himself over a half mile course that included some hills and he was making repeated runs over this course one after another. This is at about 7500 feet altitude which slows down your time. Considering these things his time of 2 minutes 56 seconds for 800 meters or about half a mile is OK. It's not anything special or a great time but it does not show weak stamina either. Canelo has a short stocky build that is not the best for long distance running. Running a course up and down hills at 7500 feet is going to slow down the times compared to running on a flat running track at sea level.
                  This is not to bash on Canelo, to prove that he's drained or anything. I am simply evaluating his performance, considering he's a professional athlete.

                  When 16 I was expected to run 1km in less than 3 minutes for 3 or 4 times just to pass one of my trainer's physical tests during the pre season.
                  Even considering altitude his times are far from being impressive. Most amateurs athletes, not only runners, could do better, I'm fairly sure.

                  And 800m is not long distance running, it is mostly anaerobic. In other words a high intensity activity for a short period of time. In boxing it affects, for instance, for how long you can keep on throwing punches before you go out of oxygen.

                  What Canelo lacks, but it is only my opinion, is aerobic training, such as long distance running, which in boxing is usually refered to as "road work"
                  Last edited by B-Bomber; 09-08-2013, 04:19 PM.

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                  • fish262
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                    #99
                    Originally posted by GrandpaBernard
                    Alvarez always amazed me with his handspeed. He's clearly nonathletic yet his hands are fast.

                    stamina is terrible
                    foot speed is slow

                    but his combos go flying
                    I don't think his hands are that fast he just has brilliant timing.

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                    • spaek
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                      #100
                      I had a very good friend that could do 9.8seconds for 100meters, and sub 5 minute for the mile in high school. I don't know his time for 800meters, but his father was a national athlete for that distance. My friend was clearly born with talent. I was mediocre at both, but I could toss him around in grappling/wrestling, could easily beat him in arm wrestling (both arms) and also had more punching/kicking power. In general, I think most people are good at different things. It's encouraging to know that Canelo is a truly great boxer even though his aerobic stamina may not be that great.

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