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  • Originally posted by The Weebler I View Post
    Two of the judges didn't. The British commentators thought Bellew beat Chilemba, I thought he lost both fights. Whoopee-doo.
    Alright, so you're not totally biased towards brits.

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    • anyone else notice it was the british judge who gave the score 114-114,
      talk about having the nation behind ya lol!

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      • Originally posted by Garcia's Dad View Post
        Two judges, the most important people in dictating the result of the fight, managed to come out with an unfathomable score?
        Unfathomable to some, not everyone. A similar poll on ESB has 5 people giving Burns the win and 7 people having it a draw.

        Originally posted by TheBoxingfan101 View Post
        anyone else notice it was the british judge who gave the score 114-114,
        talk about having the nation behind ya lol!
        Yeah you would think he could've backed the Brit but he was honest and scored it a draw Now the US judge...

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        • Originally posted by Light_Speed View Post
          Alright, so you're not totally biased towards brits.
          I thought Dirrell beat Froch too, but it was another close fight, I wouldn't call it a robbery either.

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          • Uptight? well, it's hard not to be when a guy trains hard, fights his heart out in a dangerous sport and gets robbed, costing him a world title and some bigger pay days just to protect some cash cow because he's making good money in Scotland. That's the top and bottom of it. You must be lying to yourself if you see that fight a draw. We all lean towards the fighters we like if it's close, but sometimes you just gotta be honest about things and this wasn't even a close fight.

            It's not about being uptight, it's just about being fair to a guy who goes out and does his job better on the night and gets robbed. Any decent human being doesn't like to witness that, especially in a profession like this.

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            • Originally posted by The Weebler I View Post
              Two of the judges didn't. The British commentators thought Bellew beat Chilemba, I thought he lost both fights. Whoopee-doo.

              Nice to hear I am not the only one who felt Chilemba also won that second encounter.
              I felt Chilemba won and the British commentators did an excellent job at convincing people Bellew won.

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              • Originally posted by CrookedRain View Post
                Uptight? well, it's hard not to be when a guy trains hard, fights his heart out in a dangerous sport and gets robbed, costing him a world title and some bigger pay days just to protect some cash cow because he's making good money in Scotland. That's the top and bottom of it. You must be lying to yourself if you see that fight a draw. We all lean towards the fighters we like if it's close, but sometimes you just gotta be honest about things and this wasn't even a close fight.

                It's not about being uptight, it's just about being fair to a guy who goes out and does his job better on the night and gets robbed. Any decent human being doesn't like to witness that, especially in a profession like this.
                To me it was a close fight. I saw it differently to you, that's all.

                As to the uptight, I get that, but my opinion is just that - an opinion, and when scoring boxing fights one has to expect a diversity of opinion.

                I accept the majority on here felt Beltran won, but during the fight I could see they were giving him rounds I felt Burns won.
                Last edited by Weebler I; 09-07-2013, 06:46 PM.

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                • Just watched the fight.

                  Thought it was quite close but Beltran won.

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                  • Originally posted by The Weebler I View Post
                    I don't think, I know. It's fact, check the scorecards.
                    Bit of a cop out.

                    Incompetent judging exists.

                    It's like saying "You actually think Bradley beat Pacquaio?" and using the usless scorecards to support it.

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                    • Originally posted by RyunosukeRonin View Post
                      Don't judges get paid by the promoter meaning there regular pay? not just the extra envelope they get.

                      How is that not a conflict of interest! To the sport

                      yes, promotors pay judges.

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