Comments Thread For: Sulaiman: Floyd-Canelo Winner Should Face Pacquiao

[rasdun]

I said if he does fight Khan. Khan will also have a title and beat a legit champ i also wrote. What will Pac beat? A maybe 5 ranked LWW coming off a loss and having never fought at WW. But ok take marketability out, which i put in for you,and consider the other things i wrote. Its apples to oranges

so all of Pac's accomplishments from '03 through '11 don't count for anything?

[rasdun]

How can you be so stubborn when presented with plain facts? You're not Fetta dense. Again, the press scores:

JMM winning: 57
JMM not winning 87

I said a majority did not have JMM winning. Where's the disconnect?

I see his point - that a majority either had it a draw or Pac winning - he's right. whats the issue, Im not getting it?

[Fetta]

I could be off, but May v. Pac in '10 through '12 would've been WAAAY bigger than May v. Canelo. we can agree on that, right?

Oh yeah, well maybe not 12 after the JMM fiasco, but yes it would have been huge. WAAAY bigger im not so sure cause canelo v floyd is a monster but it would have been bigger

[HeroBando]

true. I agree with that. just don't agree that it was a robbery. buth great fights that could've went either way. I had Pac 115-12 in II and 114-114 in III. some saw 115-112 for JMM in II and 116-112 for JMM in III.
But to compare it to Pac-Bradley, I believe is not the same. Many had Pac up 118-110 and almost all had Pac around 117-111. not even saying it was you, but someone on here compared the 2 as they were both similar robberies

Totally man, any of the 3 Pac JMM fights could have gone either way. Take those press scores for the 3rd, average them out, you get 114-114. Average out the Bradley scores, you get 117-111. Here's my favorite stat on the Bradley scores:

There were more reported 11-1 for Pac, than 7-5 Pac + draw + Bradley win combined

[BoxngLove]

Suliman's mouth is watering thinking about how much money he can make letting all the top fighters fight for his worthless belt. Maybe fighters should donate 3% of their purse to charity instead of a corrupt organization.

[Fetta]

so all of Pac's accomplishments from '03 through '11 don't count for anything?

Are we still talking about now or are we drifting into past accolades

[HeroBando]

I see his point - that a majority either had it a draw or Pac winning - he's right. whats the issue, Im not getting it?

He's trying to spin it into "a majority had JMM winning". I wouldn't even care, but he called me out on this above. It's really simple, no need to this much back and forth

[oc9979]

How can you be so stubborn when presented with plain facts? You're not Fetta dense. Again, the press scores:

JMM winning: 57
JMM not winning 87

I said a majority did not have JMM winning. Where's the disconnect?

You said a solid majority did NOT have JMM winning.

Manny winning: 51
Manny not winning: 93

93 out of 144=65%
51 out of 144=35%

SO 65% had manny NOT winning, which means an even greater percentage had Manny NOT winning..

Now how about you just cut the bull**** statistical manipulation out, be an adult, and admit that the majority of people thought JMM won the 2nd and 3rd fights.

57 out of 144=40% JMM winning
87 out of 144=60% JMM not winning.

51 out of 144=35% MP winning
93 out of 144=65% MP not winning

So basically JMM has 6 more votes than Manny winning

[HeroBando]

57 out of 144=40% JMM winning
87 out of 144=60% JMM not winning.

51 out of 144=35% MP winning
93 out of 144=65% MP not winning

So basically JMM has 6 more votes than Manny winning

Yeah, all I said is a majority did not have JMM winning, and got called out on it wrongly.

Now Dunn doesn't claim it's a robbery, which is fine. But a lot of posters do. You can't have a robbery with a majority of press row scores not even having the guy winning. Robberies have consensus, like hardly anybody had the wrong guy winning (or drawing) in Pac Bradley, Abril Rios, Lara PWill, Campillo vs Shumenov/Cloud

[mrlopez]

they should fight

It'll be the two best fights back to back!