Comments Thread For: Sulaiman: Floyd-Canelo Winner Should Face Pacquiao

[The Big Dunn]

Quick question for posters:

Bob likes to give big fights to the guy who loses the "tune up". SO if Manny beats Rios as expected, wouldn't Rios get the winner of floyd v canleo while Manny would then fight the loser of jmm/bradley or provod/alvarado?

[rasdun]

Don't get me wrong, I want to see this fight happen just like everyone else (mostly) but its going to be even harder to argue the money split since Pac lost those last two fights and with Arum still around. I think the fans deserve the fight more than Pacquiao does though. And I agree, the Alvarez thing is null and void.

It's done and will never happen. If they couldn't agree on this fight bt 2010-2012 when it would've generated 3 mil PPV buys and 75 + mil for each fighter, they never will. AND, even if they do, it will never be what it could've been - a great fight bt the top 2 lb for lb fighters in the sport.
Pac is still very good, but his style is not made for longevity.

don't get me wrong - Id love to see it, but mayweather has had sooooo many excuses (steroid testing, Im on vacation, purse split, Pac has to beat Bradley and Marquez in rematches, Pac has to sign with my promotional co. first) that it's obvious that he doesn't want to ever fight Pac, no matter what. we can speculate as to the reason, but only Floyd knows for certain.
and we know Arum and Pac are partly to balme as well - with not agreeing to the testing and Bob's myriad of excuses in early '12 (pac's cut wont heal in time, I need to build a stadium); it's very obvious that once negotiations failed in early '10 that Arum had no intention of ever making the fight either

[The Big Dunn]

Naw Floyd won't fight PAC, his health is too important and I don't blame him. Floyd would prolly diss PAC by saying he needs to rematch Bradley and jmm first then leave top rank and sign onto tmt.

Imagine that, floyd asking Manny to beat the guys who beat himat ww before getting a shot at the lineal ww title? He is also asking Manny to join TMT.

****ing straight up BULLSH!!!!TTTTTT. Can you imagine the bigger earner disrespecting a proud, honarable warrior by asking them to sign to his promoter to fight. Thats the kind of devious **** that ruins boxing. I hate it when sellfish, arrogant fighters flex their leverage like that. ****ing a$$hole. Has aything this ****ing sad EVER, EVER, EVER happened before in boxing?

Oh yeah, Tim Bradley and JMM had to win fights and sign to TR to get a manny fight.

[rasdun]

also, sulamain is only saying this bc he hopes to get a bg sanctioning fee. bc even if it's not what it once was. MaY v Pac would still be the biggest fight in boxing

[rasdun]

Imagine that, floyd asking Manny to beat the guys who beat himat ww before getting a shot at the lineal ww title? He is also asking Manny to join TMT.

****ing straight up BULLSH!!!!TTTTTT. Can you imagine the bigger earner disrespecting a proud, honarable warrior by asking them to sign to his promoter to fight. Thats the kind of devious **** that ruins boxing. I hate it when sellfish, arrogant fighters flex their leverage like that. ****ing a$$hole. Has aything this ****ing sad EVER, EVER, EVER happened before in boxing?

Oh yeah, Tim Bradley and JMM had to win fights and sign to TR to get a manny fight.

couple of differences though, Bradley and JMM don't have the earning power Pac had. 2nd Pac is under contract with TR and Floyd knows it aint expiring within the next yr. 3rd, did Floyd say that Cotto had to avenge his defeat to Pac or that Ortiz had to avenge his defeat to maidana bf they got their shots. cmon. it's obvious those are just excuses and not legitimate reasons

[rasdun]

further - their earnings are vey close to, so to call Floyd the bigger earner is a stretch. he grosses more bc he acts as his own promoter, but their PPVs are very close, and that's with Floyd getting an extra 100-200k for a number of his fights with Canelo on the undercard.

[hhs661]

What Don Suliaman really meant to say was that the loser of Mayweather-Canelo fight should face Pacquiao next. His message just got lost in translation

[whoseyourdaddy]

Pac vs Canelo is not even feasible because of the weight difference, so I guess he means just Floyd.

First time I agree with Mr. Penguin. I'm still interested in a fight with Floyd vs Manny and or Canelo if he does the same as he is doing with floyd (weight 152).

i could tell you never been to Mexico,there is more white looking Mexican Mestizos than Asian looking ones...go to northern cities in Mexico and you will see alot of Mestizos that look like Canelo,its because the European ancestry skips a generation,thats why some of Canelos brothers are darker som of his brothers are lighter its because of the European and Amerindian Mixture they have of 600 years of mixing those two bloodlines over and over again..learn history bro

What so bad about comparing Manny to Mexicans? his style resembles more of a mexican fighting style than any other style more so even than Marquez's style so I must agree with Check Hooks on this one.

[The Big Dunn]

couple of differences though, Bradley and JMM don't have the earning power Pac had. 2nd Pac is under contract with TR and Floyd knows it aint expiring within the next yr. 3rd, did Floyd say that Cotto had to avenge his defeat to Pac or that Ortiz had to avenge his defeat to maidana bf they got their shots. cmon. it's obvious those are just excuses and not legitimate reasons

Speaking of differences, cotto nor ortiz had lost 2 in a row and had won fights before fighting floyd. Manny is coming of a ko loss to JMM and a a disputed ud loss to tim. Its not like floyd said avenge the torrecampo loss.

Yes, Pac is a bigger earner. SO what. Hatton earned more than JMM but Pac didn't ask Hatton to join TR so I could make the same arguments you are.

Bottom line is its the same thing, just the finances involved are different. Tim and JMM can do it so can manny.

[rasdun]

[QUOTE=Arakawa Dunn;13712880]Speaking of differences, cotto nor ortiz had lost 2 in a row and had won fights before fighting floyd. Manny is coming of a ko loss to JMM and a a disputed ud loss to tim. Its not like floyd said avenge the torrecampo loss.

Yes, Pac is a bigger earner. SO what. Hatton earned more than JMM but Pac didn't ask Hatton to join TR so I could make the same arguments you are.

Bottom line is its the same thing, just the finances involved are different. Tim and JMM can do it so can manny.[/QUO

you actually just proved my point - Hatton was a big earner, as such, the fight was made without asking Hatton to join TR. It was known that wasn't an option - they just agreed on the split. asking Manny to leave TR for Money promotions, cmon - we know it'll never happen. also, has Floyd asked anyone else to join Money promotions before fighting him, - again, no. bc he knows it's not happening. its just yet another way for him to say Ill never fight Pac, without actually saying it