Comments Thread For: Sulaiman: Floyd-Canelo Winner Should Face Pacquiao

[Fetta]

no doubt - the 1st rd of negotiations I put more fault on Pac. even though at the time there had never been additional testing, so I understand Pac's position, but he should've ageed. but since March '10, Floyd has had a ton of excuses

They both had a ton of excuses after that round. Pacs no testing or wanting a cut-off was/is the biggest for me

[rasdun]

The infamous phone call? do you mean the one where Montoya got hung up on for mentioing testing to Arum right before the JMM 3 fight? Of course not you mean the Floyd call that came right after Montoya was hung up and Arum spurted out that they will agree to testing and everyone ran with it cause it was the first time he actually said it. So as you can see they hadnt agreed to anything till that faithful Montoya hung up day.

No that 40 mil for Pac was legit but the 0 PPV i can see as crap. I love how now this fight has gotten to $300 mil HAHA

Ive previously worked with a boxing promoter for years. believe me between PPV revenue (app 150 mil), gate (app 30 mil) sponsors (app 30 mil) worldwide right (app 40 mil) theatres and other venues (app. 20), the fight would've done well over 250

[The Big Dunn]

Come on man. Do I need to repost my crystal clear figures? Why are you trying to muddy it? What I said is 100% right. If you have some other argument, fine, but don't try to correct me.

Hey you're more knowledgeable than Fetta, do you know another "robbery" that had both Cliff and Jake scoring it for the wrong guy outright?

you can post whatever you like. The majority of writers/media thought Manny did not win both the 2nd and 3rd fights against JMM. Period. That is a fact that your stats back up.

There was no robbery. If cliff and jake thought Manny won-fine. All that means is the majority of their peers thought otherwise. They have accepted it, you can't.

[rasdun]

I said it matters to some of you. Read what i wrote dont just take snippets and run with them

I know what you said, but you used it support an argument for khan getting the fight, but said it didn't matter for Pac.

[Fetta]

Ive previously worked with a boxing promoter for years. believe me between PPV revenue (app 150 mil), gate (app 30 mil) sponsors (app 30 mil) worldwide right (app 40 mil) theatres and other venues (app. 20), the fight would've done well over 250

Gate 30 mil? Floyd v Canelo did like 19 mil and it broke the record. You really think this fight can get an additional 11 mil? Unless you banking on Arums stadium. I dont. I dont see this fight going over 150 mil with everything invovled. But im not a promoter and maybe youre right but 300 mil i dont see at all.

[rasdun]

you can post whatever you like. The majority of writers/media thought Manny did not win both the 2nd and 3rd fights against JMM. Period. That is a fact that your stats back up.

There was no robbery. If cliff and jake thought Manny won-fine. All that means is the majority of their peers thought otherwise. They have accepted it, you can't.

true. I agree with that. just don't agree that it was a robbery. buth great fights that could've went either way. I had Pac 115-12 in II and 114-114 in III. some saw 115-112 for JMM in II and 116-112 for JMM in III.
But to compare it to Pac-Bradley, I believe is not the same. Many had Pac up 118-110 and almost all had Pac around 117-111. not even saying it was you, but someone on here compared the 2 as they were both similar robberies

[HeroBando]

you can post whatever you like. The majority of writers/media thought Manny did not win both the 2nd and 3rd fights against JMM. Period. That is a fact that your stats back up.

There was no robbery. If cliff and jake thought Manny won-fine. All that means is the majority of their peers thought otherwise. They have accepted it, you can't.

How can you be so stubborn when presented with plain facts? You're not Fetta dense. Again, the press scores:

JMM winning: 57
JMM not winning 87

I said a majority did not have JMM winning. Where's the disconnect?

[Fetta]

I know what you said, but you used it support an argument for khan getting the fight, but said it didn't matter for Pac.

I said if he does fight Khan. Khan will also have a title and beat a legit champ i also wrote. What will Pac beat? A maybe 5 ranked LWW coming off a loss and having never fought at WW. But ok take marketability out, which i put in for you,and consider the other things i wrote. Its apples to oranges

[rasdun]

Gate 30 mil? Floyd v Canelo did like 19 mil and it broke the record. You really think this fight can get an additional 11 mil? Unless you banking on Arums stadium. I dont. I dont see this fight going over 150 mil with everything invovled. But im not a promoter and maybe youre right but 300 mil i dont see at all.

I could be off, but May v. Pac in '10 through '12 would've been WAAAY bigger than May v. Canelo. we can agree on that, right?

[Fetta]

How can you be so stubborn when presented with plain facts? You're not Fetta dense. Again, the press scores:

JMM winning: 57
JMM not winning 87

I said a majority did not have JMM winning. Where's the disconnect?

The disconnect is with you and reality. Protect away son