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Vid: Ellerbe claims an article on BoxingScene is what made the fight a Catchweight

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  • #21
    Well Mayweather is a predator in that regard, if he sees an opening, a chance at victory, or opportunity to take advantage he will take it; just ask Victor Ortiz.

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    • #22
      Mayweather and his team are phony liars. They always have been and they always will be. Nothing new here. Team Mayweather first wanted to fight Canelo at 147. Fighting Canelo below 154 was all Mayweather and his team's idea. Why the hell would Canelo want to handicap himself by fighting even one ounce below 154?

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      • #23
        Originally posted by The Raw Dog View Post
        I guess we should be indirectly thanking Manny Pacquiao for this catchweight fight, because it was his reluctance to Accept 40 million and fight Floyd on May 4th of last year, that prompted camp of Canelo to make The catch weight request. I mean who needed 6 months to heal from a cut, and whose promoter claimed he needed to erect a stadium on the strip just to promote the fight?

        Thanks Manny for your poor decision making, because you may have just created the highest grossing PPV fight of all time...

        http://www.boxingscene.com/team-cane...ther-jr--47305
        The "I give you 40 million and I keep 100% of the ppv money" offer was a joke. That being said, yeah Arum's excuses were more than laughable.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by LacedUp View Post
          So what? Hypocrisy is incredibly evident in all areas of boxing. It just gets highlighted to a gross extent when it's Floyd. Honestly couldn't care less about what weight it's at.

          Nobody put a gun to Canelo's head (at least I don't think so) to force the fight. He could have just said he wanted it at 154. Does anybody really think Floyd would pass up $40m for 2 measly pounds?
          To each his own I guess. I personally do not like this CW at all. This is a titlefight at 154 where both are champions. There shouldn't be a need for a CW.

          That being said, it's neither the first nor the last time a fighter uses his negotiation leverage.

          Ray Leonard was infamous for that as is wellknown.

          It even goes way back further.Oldest example I can recall is when Battling Nelson defended his LW belt against Joe Gans back in about 1906 where he used leverage to force 3 separate weigh-ins on the day of the fight where the last was in full fighting gear at ringside. Those demands was made because Gans was presumed to be struggling at the weight.

          It didn't matter though, as the old master won via DQ after 42 rounds having thouroughly outboxed the durable dane.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by LacedUp
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            Originally Posted by BattlingNelson

            Would you really? Bear in mind that this fighter has been bashing catchweights for years saying stuff like he considered Cotto for undefeated etc.

            This is hypocrisy at its finest.

            So what? Hypocrisy is incredibly evident in all areas of boxing. It just gets highlighted to a gross extent when it's Floyd. Honestly couldn't care less about what weight it's at.

            Nobody put a gun to Canelo's head (at least I don't think so) to force the fight. He could have just said he wanted it at 154. Does anybody really think Floyd would pass up $40m for 2 measly pounds?
            yes. he passed up 60 mil for drug tests that are pointless.



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            • #26
              Originally posted by boliodogs View Post
              Mayweather and his team are phony liars. They always have been and they always will be. Nothing new here. Team Mayweather first wanted to fight Canelo at 147. Fighting Canelo below 154 was all Mayweather and his team's idea. Why the hell would Canelo want to handicap himself by fighting even one ounce below 154?
              Are you saying that Oscar and the rest of Canelo's handlers don't care about him?

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              • #27
                "His (i.e. Alvarez's) management put out something on BoxingScene that they would be willing to fight at a catchweight." -- Leonard Ellerbe

                Can anyone refer me to what specifically on this site he is referring to? Is it even true?

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by junior gong View Post
                  We have another zelenoff.^^
                  I don't get it, what do you mean by that?

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by Hop View Post
                    "His (i.e. Alvarez's) management put out something on BoxingScene that they would be willing to fight at a catchweight." -- Leonard Ellerbe

                    Can anyone refer me to what specifically on this site he is referring to? Is it even true?
                    It was a thread where Canelo's trainer(?) said Floyd wanted the fight at 147 and was unwilling to compromise on 152lbs and that they (Team Canelo) would be willing to do 152.

                    At the end of the day, if FLoyd was willing to do 154 like Ellerbe says he only damaged his own prospective victory as everyone will claim Canelo was drained.

                    Edit: checked the article, it wasn't as specific as I remembered it
                    Last edited by Weebler I; 08-30-2013, 11:16 AM.

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                    • #30
                      I really don't understand the problem, Alvarez is huge, he's massive, while Floyd could easily get down to 140 if not 135, he's been giving up weight for years now so I don't know where you haters expect him to draw the line. Cotto was a former light welter who hasn't got the natural size Alvarez has so it didn't matter so much that fight was at 154.
                      Floyd haters really are ****in idiots. I can't wait to hear what you lot are gonna ***** about once he's gone.

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