I sparred a professional tomato can and I got whooped
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Why are you always yelling?A "Bum" to me is someone without effort and pride! Someone who picks up the short money and looks toduck out! There really isn't much of that these days because the live gate shows aren't as prevalent!!
I had an old friend who ran a boxing gym in Greenwich Ct. my boxing team used to fight his kids often at base shows and we would see them at some regionals also! I mentioned him on the forum once and someones retort was that he was a bum[B]!!![?B] His pro record is listed at 75W & 75L (revised to 69 & 68 stopped 3 times) as a heavyweight.
His name is "Tiger" Ted Lowery, I can tell everyone that these so called bums would kick the living crap out of 99.9% of the men walking around today, as to the forum theres no one that I've read thats going any kind of rounds with Lowery! He was not as gifted as some but he did represent the game by being "in it"! He was a full time fighter who boxed for extra money along with his day job. This was the majority rule with 90% of the boxers during his era (1940s-50s)
He fought Marciano twice, the first bout was a close dec. that earned him a rematch against Rocky. Ted told me that he had over 200 fights in his career and he never fought anyone like Marciano, after the first round he decided to box with Rocky and not fall inside at all!!!!!
So the record isn't as impressive as ed would have hoped for but it doesnt mean he was a "bum"! Anyoe with 100+ fights who was stopped only 3 times is NO Bum!
I hate when people come into a life style or activity and use the terminology thats been present for 100 years inproperly!! It shows how much they actually don't know what their taking about!!!
Ray.
Tiger passed away in 2010 at the age of 90!! Helped alot of kids in his time and was a tuff but fair trainer!Comment
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I sparred a HW who had a career record of 0-7 and was knocked out all 7 times including getting dumped in the 1st round by Ray Austin.
He was a trainer at the gym and he was the only guy there at the time who was over 150 lbs on a day when we were all doing 3 rounds of sparring. Since nobody else would do it he got in with me and he was actually a pretty ****ty boxer and I had my moments but his power was ridiculous. He was probably throwing 50% power and moving me across the ring when he hit me on the gloves.
We had another guy at my gym who was a very successful 200lb amateur and it wasn't even close. I could hold my own with him for the most part and I could take his shots. The trainer, who was 43 and hadn't boxed professionally in over 7 years could have blasted me out with one shot if he had wanted to.Comment
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I don't think that thread was serious man (nor any of the replies).Comment
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thats insane if thats true ....he was a beast 10 years ago really wopuld have hurt an average fighter badly
only pro i sparred was a 14 year old patrick day when i was 18 we did a round robin he was in, i was in, and i got completely destroyed he just turned pro recently after being #1 amatuer in the us at 152 hes 5-0 now ...we should start hearing about him soon he is a hell of a fighterComment
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That is so true.Also to add some guys just aren't good at performing in front of an audience because of nerves and such I've heard around gyms of fighters that would run guys out of gyms sparring but had ***** records cause they would clam up etc I have def experienced that theres def a certain comfort level to sparring in the same gym infront of the same people day in and day out that you totally lose in a real match some guys can handle it some can't. I respect anyone that gets up in the ring period its not as easy as some thinkComment
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I guess that sleeping on cardboard boxes made you tough, ha. Lol, I've already fought with so many worldclass fighters, you have yet to do **** and you get nervous just demonstrating your infintile skills. That's too funny.......... Rockin'
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