im 24 now, back when i was 14 i boxed for about 2 years then stopped and then got back into it at 21 for about a year, officially done with boxing competitively, but in my times ive been able to spar a few good boxers, angel ocascio (7-0-2) as a pro, i fought and sparred anthony flores (9-4-1) as a pro, twice sparred danny garcia, i was very inexperience and it was light work, more recently a friend of my greg hackett who is (1-10) as pro. most deceiving record, hes a small guy should be 140 but is lazy and has been fighting between 154-168 for a pay check, i truly believe his record would be the opposite way around if he had taken it serious and fought at his weight class. point being even "bums" would whoop 98% of the people on these sites.
I sparred a professional tomato can and I got whooped
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Also to add some guys just aren't good at performing in front of an audience because of nerves and such I've heard around gyms of fighters that would run guys out of gyms sparring but had ***** records cause they would clam up etc I have def experienced that theres def a certain comfort level to sparring in the same gym infront of the same people day in and day out that you totally lose in a real match some guys can handle it some can't. I respect anyone that gets up in the ring period its not as easy as some thinkComment
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The only pro i would jump in the ring with would be charlie zelenoff. I'd take 5 to land a andrew golota flurry...Comment
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I've in with some years ago and believe me there are very few "bums in the ring." I once heard about how "horrible John Ruiz was" after he was KTFO'd by Tua and then watched him spar while I was hitting the bag. If that is "horrible" then let me be that bad is what I thought at the time.This is why I have a problem with the avg fans calling pro fighters bums...
I have sparred many pros in my career and even now once in a while in the ring and the one's that people would call "bums" would beat the **** out of 90% of most people.
I sparred Edvan Barros about a year ago, and he ran circles around me.
It takes balls to box at the pro level,much respect for all those who enter the squared circle in any capacity.

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People like that are essentially calling THEMSELVES a Bum. The reason is simple math. Any man who makes it to the top 2%, 3% in the world or even on a national level of what they do for a living should never be called a bum. They have made it to a level that thousands have failed at. Otherwise, anyone calling someone like that a bum is really saying that they themselves are a bum because I doubt they are in the top 2%, 3% in the world at what they do for a living. I would actually be shocked if ANYONE on here is in the top 2%, 3% in the world at what they do for a living. Probably not even in the top 2%, 3% in the same City at what they do for a living. Does that mean everyone here is a bum? No. So next time someone calls a top 20 fighter a bum, they are indicating that they themselves are worse than a Bum.Last edited by richardt; 08-29-2013, 03:49 PM.Comment
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Totally agree. I was surprised by the amount of fanboys on this site who if they don't like your opinion...they trash you.im 24 now, back when i was 14 i boxed for about 2 years then stopped and then got back into it at 21 for about a year, officially done with boxing competitively, but in my times ive been able to spar a few good boxers, angel ocascio (7-0-2) as a pro, i fought and sparred anthony flores (9-4-1) as a pro, twice sparred danny garcia, i was very inexperience and it was light work, more recently a friend of my greg hackett who is (1-10) as pro. most deceiving record, hes a small guy should be 140 but is lazy and has been fighting between 154-168 for a pay check, i truly believe his record would be the opposite way around if he had taken it serious and fought at his weight class. point being even "bums" would whoop 98% of the people on these sites.

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