Those who rank Roy Jones over Hopkins..why?

[Larry the boss]

And just because he beat them when both were prime does not mean he ranks ahead...Jmm lost to freddy norwood and chris john in his prime..do they rank higher then him?

[Larry the boss]

Tito and Oscar were little compared to Hopkins so was winky if take hill and Johnson over Oscar and winky jmo but they had no business being at 160 or 170

Tito was also undefeated and had a Middleweight title he won by brutal ko

[Big_L]

well lets list each fighters top wins


Roy-Hopkins,Toney,Ruiz,Tarver

Hopkins-Tito,Oscar,Tarver,Pavlik,Pascal,Cloud,Winky

and lets add history

Roy-1st fighter in over 100 years to win a title at middleweight and heavyweight

Hopkins-oldest champion ever and still going

montell griffin was a better fighter than pavlik, pascal and cloud. and probably better than winky @ 170.

[ИATAS]

Both greats! And both should be ranked near eachother. So somewhere between 30-40, if you have Jones at 38 for example Hopkins should be 39 and vice versa!

[BoxingGenius27]

Dude, you for real,, you thought winky won that fight,,, cant hate too much because i have been in the minority before when it comes to scorecards,,, but i thought for sure hopkins won that fight,,,,, winky didnt do much after about 5 rounds,,

I thought Hopkins won but still, Wright had no business at light heavyweight, he looked out of shape there and tired. He was already a small middleweight no need to go up to light heavyweight.

I don't give Hopkins much credit for that one, especially since I feel Wright was past it.

All Hopkins did was hit and hold the entire bout... Winky tried to punch and Hopkins tried to hold.

I thought Winky won

[-PBP-]

He beat better fighters and was more dominant in doing it

It's not just who you beat. It's how and when you beat them.

[BoxingGenius27]

And just because he beat them when both were prime does not mean he ranks ahead...Jmm lost to freddy norwood and chris john in his prime..do they rank higher then him?

Freddy Norwood and Chris John aren't ATG's and don't even sound right in the same sentence when comparing RJJ to Hopkins

[BoxingGenius27]

Dude, you for real,, you thought winky won that fight,,, cant hate too much because i have been in the minority before when it comes to scorecards,,, but i thought for sure hopkins won that fight,,,,, winky didnt do much after about 5 rounds,,

I thought Hopkins won but still, Wright had no business at light heavyweight, he looked out of shape there and tired. He was already a small middleweight no need to go up to light heavyweight.

I don't give Hopkins much credit for that one, especially since I feel Wright was past it.

Oh yeah, and I forgot to mention headbutt. All Hopkins did was hit, hold and headbutt the entire fight.

Nothing deserving of a W

[edgarg]

What are some of you guys talking about. Winky Wright was a very defensive career 154 lber. with almost no attack except a left jab. Hopkins was a light-heavy who dieted down to 160. When they met at 170 it was basically one of three fights he's had in the past 6 years and he was flabby and out of shape. Also Hopkins is over 3" taller and rehydrates to about 180-85. Wright was about 37 and well done as a fighter. He had two more fights over the next 6 years and lost each one. he had no (W)right to be fighting at 170 against a much bigger man.

Jones was virtually, truly, unbeatable for nearly 15 years un til Tarver threw that eyes-closed punch. And at that, Jones should never have come down to lt.heavy again. He ruined his body by doing it, as do so many others. But i suppose it was nearly time anyway for him to lose. With Jones, it was obvious that no matter whom the opponent was Jones would coast to an easy win. Hopkins never looked like that except against his collection of policemen and cabdrivers. He had to grit and foul his way to win.

[RapidFire180]

I think Roy has an edge in popularity, he was the more exciting fighter of the 2, his style was cool to watch he made the competition look silly, plus hes a former Heavyweight champ, fighter of the decade, Id watch him any day over B hop. But Hop is still going strong even tho he needs to quit before he gets killed. But you have to give him props