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SRR retired with only 2 losses (1 to Lamotta and 1 to Maxim in a fight he was winning and collapsed because of the heat) and he had like 145 wins or something. Then he came back and ruined his record but he was already old and fighting in a higher division. How many welters beat him in his prime?
Young had a lot of losses from the beginning of his career. He had a tricky style for some. He had a good night with Ali and Norton and people hype him up for that. He lost to ocasio (or something like that) who was a bum. He lost decisions to a lot of bums due to lack of activity, he wasn't as "great" as some people say.
Lost 19 times against nobodies in the 70', but you think that would be undefeated against the contenders of this era? Well, i disagree.Comment
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Note: you can't judge a fighter just by his record (in Jimmy's case, he lost the most in the 1980's when he was washed-up), but what guys he shared the ring with and how the fights actually were.
He gave Ali and Norton all sorts of trouble, a soft-puncher himself he outmanouvered hardhitters such as Foreman and Lyle, and drew with Shavers.
Jimmy Young definitely doesn't deserve to be remembered for his losses, but for his skills and courage.
Anyone opposing this should step into the ring himself and do better.Comment
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Like i said if so many bums could outworked him in the 70's and steal a decision from him, many guys could do it now. They don't even need to be that good to pull it off. Young gave away a lot of rounds in his fights due to inactivity, that's why he had so many close decisions in his career. Guys like Chakhiev, Chisora, Adamek or Arreola could have been able to outwork him and win a decision. Or maybe some of them wouldn't have been able to figure him out but i know that with the iregularity he showed in the 70's lossing to so many low level boxers he wouldn't have been able to be "undefeated" in this era and he would have lost to a lot of guys too.Comment
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ok, i will admit, i went to boxrec to review jimmy youngs record,,,
we was like 6-4 in his first 10 fights,, but guys who beat him had combined records of 72-5,,, no one fights comp like that in their first 10 fights,,,,, then he went on a run and lost to ali, then another run beating foreman, then by the 80s he was losing to top prospects,, Ossie osscao was a legit guy in his day, and so was a young micheal dokes,,,,
Young's record is decieving, but he wasnt just getting outworked by random guys,,, fighting an 18-1 randy neuman and 42-2 ernie shavers is remarkable for a guy with less than 10 fights,,,,,,
the young that fought ali and foreman would beat everyone not named klitchkoComment
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Doakes was legit but Ocasio? No way. He is the definition of a bum. I saw his fight with Holmes (who came immediately after his fight with Young) and he was awful. It was a total shutdown and i know Holmes is good but this guy was terrible. B level boxer at most. Lossing to a guy like that just show you that he was not "above" the others contenders like the K.Bros are or Ali and Foreman were. It shows that he is another contender, a guy who wins some and losses some against the guys at the top. And NO, it has nothing to do with that "stacked division" of the 70' that people always praise because Ocassio was horrible and wouldn't be a top 10 in this era, i don't even think he was a top 10 in that era either.
About the 6-4. It was early but who were they? Most of them went nowhere. Another sign of someone who is a "contender" and wins some and losses some and not someone above the rest who had a lot of losses because he was in a "super stacked era" or whatever which is what people like to believe. The only one worth of notice is Earnie Shavers and Young went to a draw with him. Shavers was a huge puncher with very BAD boxing skills, if he wasn't being knocked out he should have been winning easily a decision like Holmes did. I mean if he was "above" the rest like the K.Bros are...
If he was in this era i think he would have been another top contender, with some wins and some losses against the other contenders. Nothing more, nothing less.Comment
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What if Dempsey had been born in 1985 instead of 1895?
There'd be a 205 lb. man delivering concussions to giants today.Comment
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