Timothy Bradley, overrated or underrated?

[PAC-BOY]

He gets nothing for a gift decision with Manny. Being the biggest robbery in boxing by most every boxing expert.
His win against Prov was nothing short of a close gift IMO. Could have went both ways maybe but i see it for Prov. Credit for his heart and determination though. Bradley showed guts that fight and i cant do nothing but respect that!

Overrated. Thus far

[BUNGALOWS]

But the RING's P4P top 10 is a complete joke, we all know that. You honestly think he's as skilled as Mares? Mares' ability to adjust to a wide range of styles is more impressive to me than Bradley, who regardless of why you think he fought the way he did, was brawling with a guy who's only chance of winning was making Bradley brawl with him.

He's not as talented as Donaire, who I thought was also overrated, but he couldn't do to top WW what Donaire did to Montiel, not just the KO, but just being that much better than his opponent, to dominate an elite WW.

If Sergio and Bradley were the same weight, I think Sergio would school him, but obviously with the injuries it's hard to be so sure now.

I think Froch, Mares, Rigondeaux, Klistchko, Pacquiao, Martinez, Donaire, and Gonzalez are better P4P than Bradley. He's obviously rated, but I don't think he's above top 15 right now.

OK, let's say there were a Bradley equivalent in each of those weight classes.

He beats Mares, no question for me.

He beats Sergio, no question for me.

Donaire is a toss up.

[El Angel]

OK, let's say there were a Bradley equivalent in each of those weight classes.

He beats Mares, no question for me.

He beats Sergio, no question for me.

Donaire is a toss up.

Fair enough, what is about his skill set that makes you say this? I'm genuinely curious, it kinda irks me that I don't see what most see when they watch him fight.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Tim is overrated now. Back then when he was the king of the headbutt he was rated just fine.

Some people actually think he can outbox Marquez. That says it all right there.

I bet you that Bradley makes JMM look old and slow.....

I think he is greatly underrated,,,,

How many "average" fighters can say they have beaten

Miguel vasquez
Junior witter
Peterson
abregu
alexander
holt

and none were close,,,,

Bradley is an excellent fighter,,, and he should be on everyone's p4p list...

People will say he got beat by manny, thats legit,, and then say tim is a bum, he almost got stopped by ruslan... yes but tim fought ******..
He was fighting to impress all the haters that wanna see ko's, so he got out of his normal game plan and looked for the ko early and then got caught..
It would be like floyd standing and trading with ortiz, Tim made a ****** mistake but he showed his heart and battled back and nearly stopped ruslan,,
Anyone with common sense knows that tim made a strategic error for trying for the early ko....
I doubt he does the same with JMM, i think we will see the Tim that punked out peterson, abregu, alexander, vs jmm...
and i think bradley outhustles jmm, and wins a decision,,,,, of course their will still be haters that say bradley is a bum,,,

[BUNGALOWS]

Fair enough, what is about his skill set that makes you say this? I'm genuinely curious, it kinda irks me that I don't see what most see when they watch him fight.

The guy gives you no space, and is great with rolling punches, and smothering your attack. If you're not a beast like Pac, you're gonna have the toughest fight of your life.

He can box from the outside, make you miss, and counter you all day. He has very good foot movement, and overall agility. Always in the right position, and his head movement is elite.

Elite level chin. Elite level heart. Underrated skills. The guy just knows how to fight and box at the same time. Not many fighters on this planet can mix it up like him, and not take damage.

He's not a true WW in the sense of being in peak form. He might have WW size, but he would be THE best 140 lb. fighter, hands down.

I'd favor him over Garcia, Rios, Alvarado, Khan, Holt, Peterson, Judah, etc.

I'd only give Lucas the slight edge over him, and I'm being bias when I say that. I can easily see Bradley giving Lucas problems. Vice versa.

[El Angel]

I bet you that Bradley makes JMM look old and slow.....

I think he is greatly underrated,,,,

How many "average" fighters can say they have beaten

Miguel vasquez
Junior witter
Peterson
abregu
alexander
holt

and none were close,,,,

Bradley is an excellent fighter,,, and he should be on everyone's p4p list...

People will say he got beat by manny, thats legit,, and then say tim is a bum, he almost got stopped by ruslan... yes but tim fought ******..
He was fighting to impress all the haters that wanna see ko's, so he got out of his normal game plan and looked for the ko early and then got caught..
It would be like floyd standing and trading with ortiz, Tim made a ****** mistake but he showed his heart and battled back and nearly stopped ruslan,,
Anyone with common sense knows that tim made a strategic error for trying for the early ko....
I doubt he does the same with JMM, i think we will see the Tim that punked out peterson, abregu, alexander, vs jmm...
and i think bradley outhustles jmm, and wins a decision,,,,, of course their will still be haters that say bradley is a bum,,,

But you don't rank guys based on them fighting to prove a point, you base it on their performance in the ring and truth of the matter is, he didn't look that good against a guy who had most of his fights on FNF and had never fought at WW before.

[bojangles1987]

P4P, Mares would kick Bradley's ass IMO. Mares is a very, very good fighter.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Overrated especially by his fans on here. Most people have him high up their pound-for-pound rankings. Based on what? Some wins over decent B/C level opposition at 140 + a robbery over Pacquaio and a very questionable decision over Provodnikov?

[El Angel]

Overrated especially by his fans on here. Most people have him high up their pound-for-pound rankings. Based on what? Some wins over decent B/C level opposition at 140 + a robbery over Pacquaio and a very questionable decision over Provodnikov?

The ONE time I've honestly agreed with one of Dirk's entire posts. Not as harsh, but this is essentially how I feel.

[BUNGALOWS]

P4P, Mares would kick Bradley's ass IMO. Mares is a very, very good fighter.

P4P, Bradley's skill set is better than Mares'.

Bradley was schooling fools at 140, while Mares looked amateurish in the first 2 rounds against Ponce De Leon.

Bradley would utterly outclass a guy like Ponce, from the beginning.

Yeah, I'm using triangle theories.