Statistically Deontay Wilder is the most dominant force in boxing today.

[WilkinsOlajuwon]

This thread should have been deleted the second it was posted.

[KO'er]

I am a Wilder fan, but he's only fought cab drivers up to now.

Audley Harrisson is by far his most legit win. Audley though it a step up from the cab drivers, and Deontay came close to a fight with Chisora. He is stepping his game up.

I think he is going the Canelo/Chavez route, learning his trade in the pro's. He wasn't an amateur for very long.

[silentscoper]

That is a horrible example dude... no wonder you have James Toney in your AVI... You are as dumb as he is lol. FREE THROWS is 2 points.. it is mathematically 2 POINTS. 3 pointers= 3 POINTS. It is mathematically 3 points.

These facts are not 'intangibles' they are facts. They are written in stone.


On the OTHER HAND.. Quality and caliber of OPPONENTS is not linked to mathematics.. A knock out = 1 KO.

Knocking out Lennox Lewis= 1 KO
Knocking out Audley Harrison=1 KO

Lennox Lewis doesn't give you 10 KO's ..lol it's still 1 KO.

Wilder have had 28 Knock outs. He's fought 28 times. Regardless of opposition his STATS(which is the entire point of this thread) will still say 28 out of 28.
KO Ratio: 100%

It doesn't matter if Wilder knocked out Prime Ali, Lewis,Wlad,Tyson... etc
It still equates to 28 Ko's. It doesn't matter if he knocked out a string of overweight bums.. IT STILL EQUATES TO 28 KO'S..

Regardless of opposition Wilder is 28/28.

You must be ******ed. In what universe is one free throw worth 2 points.

[Russian Crushin]

The most dominant fighter is Paul spadafora

[RadioBox]

You must be ******ed. In what universe is one free throw worth 2 points.

I said Free Throws.

1 Free Throw is without a 'S'

When you get fouled in American Basketball you go to the line two times and shoot two shots. Two shots=Two points. It's simply mathematics bro.

[bklynboy]

False.... we are talking pure math here and in pure math.. side factors like quality is irrelevant to the equation.

For math (and statistics) to be relevant it has to properly represent reality. Often times one unit of measure is not enough - you need others to put it in context. The greater number of factors you have the more accurate your picture. Quantifying the quality of a fighter is difficult BUT it can be done (with a large margin of error) by taking into consideration who his victories are over.


Example: (baseball)

It's August and you're comparing two batters to see who is better. We see both are batting 400 but Batter A has 5 at bats and Batter B has 500. We added another factor now we are better able to say who is more likely the better hitter.


Example: (personal finance)

Person A has $50,000 in debt and Person B has $20,000 in debt. Who is better off? On the surface you might say Person B. However if Person A is making $200,000/year, has $1,000,000 in assets and his $50,000 in debt is the remainder of his home mortgage while Person B is making $20,000/year, has $1,000 in assets and his debt is frivolous credit card charges then would you still say that Person B is better off? No.


Example: (boxing)

Person A has a record of 30-0
Person B has a record of 30-0

According to you they are both statistically equal. Only if you don't consider other factors (see the examples above). We can (and should) consider the quality of opponent and this can be done by seeing who the opponent has fought (their combined win-loss record), whether the opponents are ranked, TOP 10 or belt holders.

Statistics that don't take in available factors don't represent reality. In other words - it's bulls**t.

[Russian Crushin]

I said Free Throws.

1 Free Throw is without a 'S'

When you get fouled in American Basketball you go to the line two times and shoot two shots. Two shots=Two points. It's simply mathematics bro.

And what happens when you get fouled and make the shot? How many free throws do you get?

[RadioBox]

And what happens when you get fouled and make the shot? How many free throws do you get?

1 .. but that is abnormal.
It rarely if ever happens.

[Russian Crushin]

1 .. but that is abnormal.
It rarely if ever happens.

What? It happens all the time

[WilkinsOlajuwon]

1 .. but that is abnormal.
It rarely if ever happens.

what? it happens quite frequently