Statistically Deontay Wilder is the most dominant force in boxing today.

[RadioBox]

This is a pretty dominant record 34-0 33ko

http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?hum...6325&cat=boxer

Is he the most dominant CW in the world?

He's no where near Wilder's stats dominance though. For starters he have had multiple fights go pass the 4th Round.. the average life span of his victims are 3+ as oppose to 2.1 for Wilders.

Another thing is he don't have a 100% KO Ratio which really renders his stats meaningless..

I don't know if he's the most stats dominant CruiserWeight.. because I don't give a **** about the JV Division of the Heavyweights.


What I do know is that Wilder is the most statistically dominant boxer in the game right now.

[RadioBox]

LMAO show me this strictly defined equation for statistical dominance. Then I'll make one up too.

For your hilarious example, statistically Guy #1 has had more pootietang but Guy #2 has scores of higher value. It is like taking free throws versus 3 pointers. You can make 40 free throws but even if I make just 14 3 pointers I've scored more than you.

I can make this **** up just the same man, your talk of "pure math" is some bull.

That is a horrible example dude... no wonder you have James Toney in your AVI... You are as dumb as he is lol. FREE THROWS is 2 points.. it is mathematically 2 POINTS. 3 pointers= 3 POINTS. It is mathematically 3 points.

These facts are not 'intangibles' they are facts. They are written in stone.


On the OTHER HAND.. Quality and caliber of OPPONENTS is not linked to mathematics.. A knock out = 1 KO.

Knocking out Lennox Lewis= 1 KO
Knocking out Audley Harrison=1 KO

Lennox Lewis doesn't give you 10 KO's ..lol it's still 1 KO.

Wilder have had 28 Knock outs. He's fought 28 times. Regardless of opposition his STATS(which is the entire point of this thread) will still say 28 out of 28.
KO Ratio: 100%

It doesn't matter if Wilder knocked out Prime Ali, Lewis,Wlad,Tyson... etc
It still equates to 28 Ko's. It doesn't matter if he knocked out a string of overweight bums.. IT STILL EQUATES TO 28 KO'S..

Regardless of opposition Wilder is 28/28.

[craigus1990]

That is a horrible example dude... no wonder you have James Toney in your AVI... You are as dumb as he is lol. FREE THROWS is 2 points.. it is mathematically 2 POINTS. 3 pointers= 3 POINTS. It is mathematically 3 points.

These facts are not 'intangibles' they are facts. They are written in stone.


On the OTHER HAND.. Quality and caliber of OPPONENTS is not linked to mathematics.. A knock out = 1 KO.

Knocking out Lennox Lewis= 1 KO
Knocking out Audley Harrison=1 KO

Lennox Lewis doesn't give you 10 KO's ..lol it's still 1 KO.

Wilder have had 28 Knock outs. He's fought 28 times. Regardless of opposition his STATS(which is the entire point of this thread) will still say 28 out of 28.
KO Ratio: 100%

It doesn't matter if Wilder knocked out Prime Ali, Lewis,Wlad,Tyson... etc
It still equates to 28 Ko's. It doesn't matter if he knocked out a string of overweight bums.. IT STILL EQUATES TO 28 KO'S..

Regardless of opposition Wilder is 28/28.

Yes Wilder is 28/28 but that is all the stat represents. As soon as you concluded that the 28/28 stat represents dominance, you begin to falter. 28/28, 100% KO ratio, 2.1 round average etc does not = a dominance stat. There is no dominance stat and the word dominance is open to interpretation. Now I think I speak for 99% of people who would say dominance is being the best without being close to matched. Wilder is not dominant in boxing. Your mistake is concluding 100% KO ratio = dominance in boxing. A dominance stat (if there was ever one conceived) WOULD take into account ranking. You need to be the best and beating the best to be dominant. That is just the definition of the word dominant. You could say and perhaps should have said, Wilder dominates his opponents more than anyone in boxing but this does not make him the most dominant statistically in boxing because again, you have to be the best to claim dominance.

[RadioBox]

Yes Wilder is 28/28 but that is all the stat represents. As soon as you concluded that the 28/28 stat represents dominance, you begin to falter. 28/28, 100% KO ratio, 2.1 round average etc does not = a dominance stat. There is no dominance stat and the word dominance is open to interpretation. Now I think I speak for 99% of people who would say dominance is being the best without being close to matched. Wilder is not dominant in boxing. Your mistake is concluding 100% KO ratio = dominance in boxing. A dominance stat (if there was ever one conceived) WOULD take into account ranking. You need to be the best and beating the best to be dominant. That is just the definition of the word dominant. You could say and perhaps should have said, Wilder dominates his opponents more than anyone in boxing but this does not make him the most dominant statistically in boxing because again, you have to be the best to claim dominance.

Uh yes it does lol.... show me one stat that is more impressive than Wilder's stats right now among active fighters.

You need to look up what statistically means. Being the most statistically dominant means that mathematically his record is unmatched... you are confusing quality of opponents (Opinions) with stats(Facts).

[craigus1990]

Uh yes it does lol.... show me one stat that is more impressive than Wilder's stats right now among active fighters.

You need to look up what statistically means. Being the most statistically dominant means that mathematically his record is unmatched... you are confusing quality of opponents (Opinions) with stats(Facts).

No you need to look up the word dominant. It means being the top dog, the alpha male etc. THERE IS NO DOMINANT STATISTIC. YOU MADE IT UP!
But if there was such a thing Wilder would not be it! PBF or Ward would be as they are number 1 P4P (in most eyes) and have not come close to losing recently. The definition of dominant means being at THE TOP!!!!
Again see my original post. Wilder has perhaps dominated his opposition more than anybody which is a fair statement but he is not statistically the most dominant fighter in the sport because he is not at the top. YOU HAVE TO BE NUMBER 1 TO BE DOMINANT BY DEFINITION OF THE WORD! CAN YOU NOT SEE THAT?

[CraigM]

Wow...

Statistically he has the best current boxing record per round, but this doesn't make him the most dominant as these statistics are being judged on fights vs people with poor records.

To find who would be statistically the most dominant you'd have to tot up win loss records of all of opponents with rounds boxed and work it out like that.

If you score a KO vs someone who gets KO'd a lot, that isn't a dominant win, its an expected win.

[Daddy T]

28 Fights
28 Wins
28 Knock outs
100% KO Ratio

Average Opponent life span: 2.1 Rounds

vitali fans won't like this thread ... I mean it doesn't matter who he's fought right? the main thing is he is completely dominant in each fight.

[Enzo Mc is SHIT]

He was in all kinds of trouble against Audley before the lucky punch and early stoppage.

[RawDawgHasSpokn]

I can't believe I just read 2 pages of this. Statistically i just lost about 4 minutes of my life that I will 100% never get back.

[Jedi Vader]

vitali fans won't like this thread ... I mean it doesn't matter who he's fought right? the main thing is he is completely dominant in each fight.

Reading between the lines, this is what this thread is really all about.

The Klitlickers won't like it but the facts are here in clear black and white that Wilder is currently the most statistically dominant Heavyweight.