Who's cherry picks the most.

[rotciv]

I think you should have taken off Martinez & added Canelo as much as I actually like Canelo. But I voted for Mayweather. The guy can probably beat everyone but he's just too scared to lose that 0. It's a shame really.

[HeroBando]

when was the last time Pacquiao fought ANYONE in their prime?

p4p rated, undefeated Bradley, not that long ago. JMM is apparently punching way harder than in his prime fwiw

[HeroBando]

I assume you mean the next 2 fights? Well that was a promotional agreement that worked well for all partners. Haye got a tv deal with ARD and Sauerland co promoted his fights. I don't see what that has to do with options on Valuev? But please enlighten me.

Pretty sure they were around for the Wlad fight. Looks like they were copromoting him well into 2011:

http://www.boxingscene.com/haye-povetkin-chagaev-triangle-explained-by-sauerland--36003

Funny how he never realized these benefits of working with Sauerland until he signed on to fight Sauerland promoted Valuev. A lot of fighters realize the benefits of working with Don King after downing his fighter.

[New England]

I think you should have taken off Martinez & added Canelo as much as I actually like Canelo. But I voted for Mayweather. The guy can probably beat everyone but he's just too scared to lose that 0. It's a shame really.

rofl... alvarez fought trout and now he's fighting mayweather.

[LacedUp]

Pretty sure they were around for the Wlad fight. Looks like they were copromoting him well into 2011:

http://www.boxingscene.com/haye-povetkin-chagaev-triangle-explained-by-sauerland--36003

Funny how he never realized these benefits of working with Sauerland until he signed on to fight Sauerland promoted Valuev. A lot of fighters realize the benefits of working with Don King after downing his fighter.

Sauerland didn't promote the Wlad fight. Haye conveniently fought Audley Harrison instead of the richest fight he could make.

I'm sure we can both agree that Don King and Sauerland do not go about their business in similar fashion.

[HeroBando]

Sauerland didn't promote the Wlad fight. Haye conveniently fought Audley Harrison instead of the richest fight he could make.

I'm sure we can both agree that Don King and Sauerland do not go about their business in similar fashion.

That article says they were still his copromoter in 2011. His next fight was Wlad.

I dunno, Sauerland doesn't have a great rep either. They probably never killed a guy, but they've done a lot worse than asking for options on their HW champ.

You're a smart guy, I don't think you're this naive. You must be very invested in Haye somehow

[LacedUp]

That article says they were still his copromoter in 2011. His next fight was Wlad.

I dunno, Sauerland doesn't have a great rep either. They probably never killed a guy, but they've done a lot worse than asking for options on their HW champ.

You're a smart guy, I don't think you're this naive. You must be very invested in Haye somehow

I'm pretty are there was a time scale for that contract, not a number of fights. Sure I mean, Sauerland have had a few shows where some of the opponents got robbed. Holyfield - Valuev, Murray - Sturm, Chisora - Helenius.

Sure they have. One option is fair. But three? That's ridiculous. And Haye isn't the only one who's complained about it before.

Why am I naive? And please take what I've written and not what Dirk is trying make out I said.

[Weltschmerz]

But Wlad's wins over Wach, Rahman, Mormeck, Pianeta were over top notch challengers.

You spend too much time on boxingscene you little twat.

[LacedUp]

You spend too much time on boxingscene you little twat.

You might be right.

But I'm not small. And I'm not a twat - something I'm sure your illiterate mind doesn't even fathom the meaning of.

[Weltschmerz]

You might be right.

But I'm not small. And I'm not a twat - something I'm sure your illiterate mind doesn't even fathom the meaning of.

Then you're a big twat

You can test me on literacy if you like. I'm challenging you. How many years did you go to school?