Malevolent Maidana Myths

[John Barron]

how is maidana considered overrated and by whom? nobody is saying he's elite level or is even ranking him in their P4P list. if anything, this thread has more people claiming the guy is overrated than there is people saying he isn't.

he's an action fighter that gets talked about, that's all. i'd like to see him in with most welterweights right now too. he's never been stopped and has given plenty of good fighters tough fights.

[Da Machine]

I think He is right up there with all those guys at 147 besides Mayweather. A couple other stylistic matchups might give him trouble, but look what Karass did to berto, and look what Maidana did to Karass. And just think. Two guys beat Berto about the same or less convincingly then karass did.

Using triangle theories, Maidana could have faced Mayweather. If he were to have got the shot at the right time, we would have already saw Maidana vs Mayweather, because Maidana would kill berto.

He's a top 5-10 WW for sure, and that division is stacked, with many more potentials to come up from 140.

[firstborn]

How about the myth that he ducked Thurman?

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Maidana is an action fighter, he has started to work behind the jab since going to welter,,,

I think he is very fun to watch, but i also think he is very limited,,,

vs guys like lopez, karass, ortiz,peterson, broner, he looks really good...

vs guys with movement and skills like alexander bradley jmm manny floyd he would look horrible..
Khan dragged him and if khan had any type of chin maidana would have had no chance in that fight...

[Syf]

Yeah but jitters doesn't have anything to do with skill level, and if his jitters were that bad, he would have been knocked out much sooner. This guy (Chaves) was throwing sharp, pin point counter shots with authority and it was pretty even at the time of the stoppage. If Maidana fights Chaves, I'm not sure he comes out the victor. Maidana was hurt against Lopez and Karass, so theres no doubt in my mind Thurman stops him and brutally for the simple fact that he can also box when he needs to in order to set traps, and hes really a 154 pounder thats coming down in weight (he fought Quintana at 154 if not mistaking). He puts mustard behind every shot and can do it for 12 rounds.

Nah he too green and Chaves don't have Maidana's pop. You let Maidana hit someone the way Chaves was and they'd be out of there. As for Thurman, I think he has some good skills, pop, and instinct, but he also a little too green to beat Maidana at this point. Both good fighters with a bright future though, its just at this stage of the game Maidana can fight a little more brutal than the both of them and he has a veteran's mindset in there.

He didn't give it up. When you unify the WBA title, they give you the super title.

I didn't realise people actually counted "regular" titles as world championships

I guess it's slim pickings for Maidana fans - you guys have to take what you can get.

I'm sure you weren't saying anything when khan had the regular title, before the unification.

So what are you going to say when Maidana smashes Broner and picks up a belt, while Khan gets sparked out by journeymen?? "Loldinozorz! He still lost to Khan though!"

Living in the past. But I guess that's all a khan fan can do.

Its a slow, lazy prodding jab to set up that overhand right. Hes a one trick pony and only has one win at welterweight against a legit welterweight in Karass who is a fringe contender so I am not sure what makes you think his futures so bright.
Hes slow as hell and jab or not, he won't ever beat anybody with decent movement.

The only way he beats anybody is if a C level guy stands in front of him or tries to fight off the ropes against him.

Don't stand and trade, stay off the ropes its as simple as that in short.
He is seriously limited and has one gear.

His jab is not prodding.. Its thudding. And while his opponent recovers from what felt like a right hand, the actual right hand lands. His jab is like a power shot and it will help him win a lot of fights. Maidana also has a left hook to the body that you are leaving out. The jab will help him catch more elusive opponents it really is as simple as that. Boxing can be very nuanced, but very elemental at the same time. Great power with decent technique can be the ultimate simplifier.

[-PBP-]

How about the myth that he ducked Thurman?

He did though

[Dirk Diggler UK]

I'm sure you weren't saying anything when khan had the regular title, before the unification.

Khan never held the "regular" title. He was the full champion because he actually beat the champion.

They only create a "regular" title when a super champion is crowned. The regular title is just created for a couple of bums to fight over so the WBA can pick up more sanctioning fees.

THAT is what you consider a world title

So yeah....back to my original point - Maidana has never been a world champion and is fringe world level at best.

So what are you going to say when Maidana smashes Broner and picks up a belt, while Khan gets sparked out by journeymen?? "Loldinozorz! He still lost to Khan though!"

Another hypothetical imaginary situation? Your favourite.

[Syf]

Khan never held the "regular" title. He was the full champion because he actually beat the champion.

They only create a "regular" title when a super champion is crowned. The regular title is just created for a couple of bums to fight over so the WBA can pick up more sanctioning fees.

THAT is what you consider a world title

So yeah....back to my original point - Maidana has never been a world champion and is fringe world level at best.

Try to cover up all you want, originally you were talking about interim and intercontinental titles... You didn't know about his regular world title.

The truth is sanctioning bodies frown upon unifications nowadays. That's why they changed Khan's belt.

Its not a feather in the cap or anything, but technically maidana has had a world title. And most assuredly you didn't know about it. Now try to spin it like you always do.

Another hypothetical imaginary situation? Your favourite.

Call it a prediction.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Try to cover up all you want, originally you were talking about interim and intercontinental titles... You didn't know about his regular world title.

The truth is sanctioning bodies frown upon unifications nowadays. That's why they changed Khan's belt.

Its not a feather in the cap or anything, but technically maidana has had a world title. And most assuredly you didn't know about it. Now try to spin it like you always do.

I'm not trying to cover anything up. I DIDN'T know about his "regular" title and I also DIDN'T care and I DIDN'T think anyone counted those as world titles

[daggum]

I'm not trying to cover anything up. I DIDN'T know about his "regular" title and I also DIDN'T care and I DIDN'T think anyone counted those as world titles

its not a real world title. the regular title is just another name for another interim belt. the super champ is the "real" champ. they are all frauds though.