Mayweather 10 out of 10
Mayweather vs Pacquiao @ 147: Who wins?
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No he doesn't, he can't handle counterpunchers, he has no jab, can't fight going backwards, he can't cut off the ring(can't handle movement), he can't fight on the inside, he has almost no defense and his ring iq isn't anywhere near Mayweather's.As u pointed out, Robert Guerrero was beating Berto against the ropes while Berto landed those punches, of course he didn't lose confidence. In the Floyd fight, Guerrero never stopped trying to win, he just didn't have the tools
Manny has the tools... He has fleet feet, fast hands, and devastating power... He threw great combinations from odd angles... He and Guerrero are not the same fighter at all... (well I guess they're both southpaws, but other than that)
All that equal a convincing loss for Manny.Comment
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Yes he does... There are different kinds of counter punchers, Marquez can counter u while brawling... Floyd can only counter u one shot at a time... That's not gonna be his offense in this fight, his main offense is gonna be pot shotsNo he doesn't, he can't handle counterpunchers, he has no jab, can't fight going backwards, he can't cut off the ring(can't handle movement), he can't fight on the inside, he has almost no defense and his ring iq isn't anywhere near Mayweather's.
All that equal a convincing loss for Manny.
Lately, he's been more of a pure defensive fighter. He hasn't put on any special counter punching displays since Hatton, and Hatton doesn't have Manny's talentComment
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This^^^^^People never seize to amaze me. Both Morales and Marquez both out boxed Pacquaio, but Floyd can't? Tell me what they can do that Floyd can't and what Floyd already did to one of them? I'm not even a huge Mayweather fan but y'all are out of line. Floyd wouldn't lose more than 4 rounds to even the best version of manny.
There should be no more discussion after this post. I wonder why this isn't being quoted & replied to?Comment
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Again, no, he doesn't! At the very least, you need a jab to beat Floyd and, Pac ain't got one. Really? So Floyd forgot how to throw combinations somehow? Go check the Ortiz fight, then tell me that again. Floyd can do EVERYTHING better than Marquez if need be. Just because he doesn't do something much anymore, doesn't mean he can't. He does what he needs to do. That's the beauty of his style, he adapts to what's in front of him. Pac on the other hand can't.Yes he does... There are different kinds of counter punchers, Marquez can counter u while brawling... Floyd can only counter u one shot at a time... That's not gonna be his offense in this fight, his main offense is gonna be pot shots
Lately, he's been more of a pure defensive fighter. He hasn't put on any special counter punching displays since Hatton, and Hatton doesn't have Manny's talent
Hatton could at least do something as basic as cut off the ring, Pac can't even do that.Comment
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It's called grasping at straws! They know there is no way in hell that Manny beats Floyd, but have to do something to hold onto the illusion. Hence, the nonsensical vote.Comment
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Yeah , they would sooner beat Floyd to death over the same things they praise Manny for lol , all the while Manny fights a losing B grade bum and Floyd unifies against a undefeated 20 lb bigger WC , the Pac ******s are so funny trying to beat Floyd somehow lol , its the only way they can get some fools gold to brighten their Manny unconscious depression .Comment
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The whole idea that "you need this one tool to beat Floyd" concept simply horseshit... No one tool will beat Floyd, you flat out need the talent to beat Floyd. He's taken away the jabs of great jabbers on many occasions (De La Hoya anyone?)
Manny's straight left is as fast and can be as sneaky as some of the best jabs out there, but packs way more power. Fighters that have given Floyd the most problem were Castillo, Mosley, Judah, and Cotto... Only Cotto is a good jabber out of that bunch
Ortiz = Pacquiao??? Ortiz has no defense at all and lacks the balls to exchange when getting hit. Manny may not be a defensive wiz, but he at least has the aforementioned fleet feet, and the reflexes of a supreme athlete. And the hand speed and throws from good angles to counter that kind of combination attack (The knockdown in Marquez II)... Floyd wouldn't use that kind of combination attack against Manny, that would be suicide...Really? So Floyd forgot how to throw combinations somehow? Go check the Ortiz fight, then tell me that again.
This is a moot point based simply on the fact Floyd has never fought anyone remotely as talented as Pacquiao, so there's no way of knowing whether its true or not. From what I've seen, Floyd vs Pac in a brawl would be a nightmare for Floyd. And even if he could do it successfully, what are you basing it off, where's the proof? When's the last time he got the better of an exchange? Let alone against a guy with Manny's supreme offense? He's simply not going to try and counter Pac in exchanges as Marquez did, that would be ******, and he's not that ******.Floyd can do EVERYTHING better than Marquez if need be. Just because he doesn't do something much anymore, doesn't mean he can't. He does what he needs to do. That's the beauty of his style, he adapts to what's in front of him. Pac on the other hand can't.
Floyd doesn't use lateral movement anymore, he goes straight back when defending... And I don't see him flat out running like Mosley did, which is really the only true way to make him look weak as an aggressorHatton could at least do something as basic as cut off the ring, Pac can't even do that.Last edited by JDezi4; 08-06-2013, 03:36 AM.Comment
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