Comments Thread For: Duran: In My Era, Mayweather Would've Been Ordinary

[therealpugilist]

Hearns would have never let Floyd get past his jab and Floyd is not a come-forward in-fighter. After taking 2 rounds of lightning rod jabs from Hearns, out go the lights. Floyd dropped twice, the last one for the count. Leonard was bigger, faster, stronger and fought every style. Leonard would stop Floyd late or take a solid decision. 1980 Duran was superior in every way to Castillo and would have smothered Floyd and wore him down and stopped him. Even Cuevas was superior to Castillo and Benitez would have shown speed Floyd has never seen. He beats maybe Cuevas, maybe not. But he beats none of the other guys. Neither does Pac. Nor does Oscar nor does Curry nor does Starling nor does Trinidad. There is no one alive who will ever witness a better Welterweight division than the late 70's, early 80's. I doubt in another 50 years either.

you are going a bit overboard....Trinidad, Oscar, mayweather wouldnt beat Cuevas lol who was wild as **** and telegraphed his punches although murderous you gotta land.

Floyd is superior to esteban de jesus....does that mean he beats Duran? Styles makes fights and fighters make fights...Hearns knocks him out...but he beats Cuevas, Duran, and Benitez...Leonard is a toss up both have attributes that would really trouble the other.

Mayweather was a better counterpuncher than Leonard, more accurate better punch technique and threw shorter punches...Also Leonard dropped his left hand after he jabbed alot, he wasnt the hardest to hit with the right hand. Mayweather one of the best counter rights ever and also is slicker. Benitez though great troubled him greatly but didnt have the work ethic, nor stamina of Mayweather.

would have been a chess match or a test of wills. it would have been 50/50

[flushuppercut]

The "woulda,coulda" Thread eh?? Dreamin is for babies...
Haterz always have a reason- 44-0.." Not 44 ko's"
Lol neverending Lol

[therealpugilist]

the 80's welterweights was deep but dont disregard other eras

the mid 1940's and early 50's had kid gavilan, sugar ray robinson, carmen basilio, tony demarco, Charley Burley, Johnny Saxton, Billy Graham was a deep era


as well as the 60's....Curtis Cokes, Napoles, Emile Griffith, Kid Paret, Luis Rodriguez, Gasper Ortega, Ralph Dupas who would win a title at 154
was a very deep era.

Its not automatic the late 70's early 80's had the best welterweights considering the depth that has always been there historically and also all of Hearns, Leonard, Benitez,Cuevas, and Duran would have lost if they fought in either of those era's at welterweight same can be said for mayweather

the 80's is the best RECENT era of welteweights not the best all time if you know your boxing history

[Doctor_Tenma]

Don't want to go hard on Duran because he's probably my favorite fighter of all time, and the best pressure fighter I've ever seen, literally. It's crazy how they don't make 'em like Duran anymore, it's weird how we can see good defensive technical fighters who operate more from boxing, but not one as gritty as Duran who can tear you apart in close and defend extremely well whilst doing it. I do enjoy Roman Gonzalez but I gotta admit I don't really follow those weight classes. That said, that doesn't excuse Duran for making such an ignorant comment, Mayweather could have competed with anyone...it's time people realized that.

Lets not get angry because the division isn't all that talented, back then fighters at least had the luxury of fighting more often because boxing was bigger, more wide spread and that allowed fighters to gain more experience. Today, you could be 16-0 and people are already talkin' about "He needs to step the fuck up!".

[mev1]

You have absolutely taken the very words from my mouth. you must be a mind reader. less than an hour ago I was on the verge of writing this very same thing that Mayweather Senior was as good as Jr. or, in my opinion a bit better, but the level of competition that was around gave him some bad losses, (I'd thought of this before but never put it in a post), and that it would have been the very same for Jr. Except, of course we all know that Jr, would never have fought these opponents, but would have hung around on the periphery and picked off a fading name here and there... You and I both think exactly alike on this.

I'm not a mind reader. I am obviously like you, a real fight fan, and not a fan of any single Fighter, but a FIGHT FAN. Thank for your feed back.

[PAC-BOY]

ATG status does not consist of...
Faking a retirement to duck out od an entire divison when its at its hottest with many prime champs ready and hungry.
Or Ducking Manny Pacquiao. Something else he will forever be remembered by!
Avoiding the BIGGEST fight (at the hottest moment) that can be made in boxing. 100 mil payday!

Yeah in Durans era them guys would have ****d Floyd. :AOR:

[HarvardBlue]

I think Mayweather is a special boxer no matter what era. I'm sure there are underlying reasons why Duran is saying this about him. Everyone gets bogged down on who Mayweather didn't fight or what boxer from the past would have beat him. The fact is he's beaten everyone he faced so far. The fact that even if he has a bad night (Cotto) he still find a way to win. Tyson was supposed to beat Douglas. Roy Jones, Wladimir Klitschko, Lennox Lewis got KO'd by boxers they were supposed to beat easily. In this or any era, good boxers get beat by lesser competition routinely. Mayweather was not. That has to count for something. I think Duran is wrong on this one.

[Ganondorf]

A shot to shiet Mosley Buckled Floyd.



No way FLoyd keeps his record, he has a hard time keeping it ^^^ and gets to choose who he fights, what a joke.

That don't matter. Power is the last thing to go in a slugger like Shane. Old or not, he still has power.

[_Gatti_]

That was a way different era. Hes right. Them guys were monsters compared to what is out there today!

[Frank Ducketts]

Listen Drank, why do you bring Pacquiao into it. The article is about Duran's comment that Mayweather in his era would have just been "ordinary'. Or perhaps you've been caught up in so many different battles that you don't know any longer which way is "up"...if you ever did.....

Was it you who was querying Duran's comment as being "only an opinion". Of course an averagely intelligent person would know that Duran just didn't burst onto the world news with his comment, he was obviously questioned by a reporter.

My answer is that, whether you (?) acknowledge it or not, Duran is one of the top 3 Lightweight champions in Boxing History; Joe Gans, Benny Leonard, and Roberto Duran. An All time Great. We rarely have one as young still with us. So, his comment, whilst still "opinion" as you say, is the closest thing to certainty as we'll ever get from the greatest analysts who write 50-60 years after a fighters career is ended. He's here right now and likely has seen Mayweather a dozen or twenty times, courtesy of whichever promoter is doing the fight.

So put that in your pipe and smoke it...

Look Edgarglesballs, Duran's comment is not even close to a certainty. The funny thing is if Duran said that about your hero, you'd be up in arms calling Duran a quitter. Begone.