Berto vs. Soto-Karass/Triple Header + Undercard RbR discussion thread

[dan_cov]

Anybody else think that was a lowblow Karass was hit with and given a count for? The count seemed fast as well - I was thinking ''here we go!'' but Karass leaped up like a G and it added fuel to the fire.

I wouldn't mind seeing Karass rematch Maidana, I felt that stoppage was a tad premature.

[Frank Ducketts]

Any good boxer can hurt Maidana, Matthysse, Chaves, and Martinez to the body. You have to be able to follow up though. These guys are notorious for letting their opponent visibly see that they were hurt by body shots. Nobody has followed up on these guys. Someone will.

[Weebler I]

Haymon's judges were going to rob Karass, I gave Berto 3 rounds (and one was the debatable k/d).

[IronDanHamza]

Anybody else think that was a lowblow Karass was hit with and given a count for? The count seemed fast as well - I was thinking ''here we go!'' but Karass leaped up like a G and it added fuel to the fire.

I wouldn't mind seeing Karass rematch Maidana, I felt that stoppage was a tad premature.

What did we say?

I had absoloutely no doubt in my mind that Karass would at the very least give Berto a lot of trouble.

And like we said, not surprised at all If he beats him.

[bojangles1987]

What did we say?

I had absoloutely no doubt in my mind that Karass would at the very least give Berto a lot of trouble.

And like we said, not surprised at all If he beats him.

Going in, with Soto-Karass's high punch rate, I was thinking, "Just get past the 4th or 5th, don't run into something ****** before then and you have it."

If not for the headbutt cut, Zaveck would have beaten Berto.

[bojangles1987]

Anybody else think that was a lowblow Karass was hit with and given a count for? The count seemed fast as well - I was thinking ''here we go!'' but Karass leaped up like a G and it added fuel to the fire.

I wouldn't mind seeing Karass rematch Maidana, I felt that stoppage was a tad premature.

It was borderline. That area where no matter what was called, you can't really disagree with it.

The Maidana stoppage was slightly early, but I didn't have a problem with it. A rematch would be fun, of course.

[IronDanHamza]

Going in, with Soto-Karass's high punch rate, I was thinking, "Just get past the 4th or 5th, don't run into something ****** before then and you have it."

If not for the headbutt cut, Zaveck would have beaten Berto.

I had the same line of thinking, that said, I knew Berto wouldn't knock him out early, he has power but it's decent power at best. He doesn't have concussive power.

Agreed entirely on Zaveck, Zaveck was on his way to beating Berto.

Any time Berto fights someone average or better he either loses or struggles badly - Quintana, Collazo, Ortiz, Guererro, Zaveck, Karass - I felt he lost to Collazo and he obviously lost to Ortiz, Guererro and Karass and like we just said, he was on his way to losing to Zaveck and despite stopping Quintana it was frankly an awful perfomance.

I suppose Urango is decent and he didn't realy struggle in that fight. That's about it though.

Any thing Freddy Hernandez level or less than he's outstanding.

[C-ORTIZ]

Anybody else think that was a lowblow Karass was hit with and given a count for? The count seemed fast as well - I was thinking ''here we go!'' but Karass leaped up like a G and it added fuel to the fire.

I wouldn't mind seeing Karass rematch Maidana, I felt that stoppage was a tad premature.

I thought Berto was fighting dirty at that point.

[ElMeroChingon]

I thought it was BS that Karass was going to get robbed on the cards, and lost the "KO of The Night" Bonus, which went to ANOTHER Al haymond fighter.


Thurman's Ko was good, but that left hook Karass landed was a beauty, especially after all the drama that was going on.

[thuggery]

The handpicked Haymon judges were about to rob Soto Karass. I'm glad it ended via brutal plankage.