Berto vs. Soto-Karass/Triple Header + Undercard RbR discussion thread

[ElMeroChingon]

Karass is not given the props he deserves. I saw a much improved Soto, he gave angles, had a better defense on the outside and inside, good selection of punches.
His Trainer needs to get recognition, i don't think Karass would've made it without him, and thats the truth.

[NearHypnos]

But why do Berto's punches have no effect on his opponents.

Sure he's very explosive and his punches look good. But he's not Lucas Mathysse'ing dudes.

The last guy he stopped I believe was Quintana. and that was one of those fights where Quintana was out on his feet but never went down.

Also, head movement. Berto has zero head movement. He just stands with this mano y mano thing. At least Tyson moved his head when he exploded. Berto explodes, but his has no effect.

Regarding his calves, they don't match his body. I would think his thighs are the same way. Maybe that's good for his weight, but he actually has the upper body of a JMW and the legs of a JWW, similar to Mathysse's

Karass was buzzed a few times. Ortiz and Guerrero also have sturdy chins. This is more a testament to his last opponents than anything else. He hits hard and is explosive he's just inconsistant. He throws a one two and admires his work then get hurt.

And of course he'a not Matthysse'ing dudes lol. Lucas has that freaky power that comes from lord knows where, same with GGG (small legs coincidentally).

Berto IS top heavy and you'd think he'd have an Evander esque chin by looking at how compact his body is but he doesnt. He's more like Yuriorkis Gamboa (who is fighting above where he shoul be so is really muscular because of it but even at 126 he had that type of physique). Yuriorkis does have destructive power though at 26...

Berto just plain and simple doesnt have the chin or skills. He's just not that good and only got by with soft touches where he could overwhelm them with his physical gifts.


Tyson had trunks for legs also. Not like David Tua or anything but yeah.

Berto seems like the kind of guy who will get fat for some reason...


And is it just me or does his dad look like Sam Peter!?!? Lol

[BoxingGenius27]

Karass was buzzed a few times. Ortiz and Guerrero also have sturdy chins. This is more a testament to his last opponents than anything else. He hits hard and is explosive he's just inconsistant. He throws a one two and admires his work then get hurt.

And of course he'a not Matthysse'ing dudes lol. Lucas has that freaky power that comes from lord knows where, same with GGG (small legs coincidentally).

Berto IS top heavy and you'd think he'd have an Evander esque chin by looking at how compact his body is but he doesnt. He's more like Yuriorkis Gamboa (who is fighting above where he shoul be so is really muscular because of it but even at 126 he had that type of physique). Yuriorkis does have destructive power though at 26...

Berto just plain and simple doesnt have the chin or skills. He's just not that good and only got by with soft touches where he could overwhelm them with his physical gifts.


Tyson had trunks for legs also. Not like David Tua or anything but yeah.

Berto seems like the kind of guy who will get fat for some reason...


And is it just me or does his dad look like Sam Peter!?!? Lol

Yeah his pops does resemble Sam Peter lol

[HitBattousai]

Karass is not given the props he deserves. I saw a much improved Soto, he gave angles, had a better defense on the outside and inside, good selection of punches.
His Trainer needs to get recognition, i don't think Karass would've made it without him, and thats the truth.

Being brutally honest, I don't think he's improved at all, it just depends on the style he's facing as to how he looks. Against good boxer-type fighters like Alfonso Gomez, Yuri Foreman, etc, Soto-Karass struggles because the movement and technique gap is too wide for him to overcome. However, he can give any other style a pretty rough night, and Berto is just a brawler with some speed that fights in a ****** manner(though he does have heart), so him having more "talent" than Soto-Karass didn't matter.

[Jaliscoguey13]

I got you man basically he said he didn't knock me down he hit me in the balls and that pissed me off my corner told me to box him in the 12th round but I said no I'm going to f**k him up

quoted because of true translation.

[jaded]

Berto's future is with ESPN Friday Night Fights now.

[thuggery]

Just watched the fight, and as expected Berto got sent to Bondye. Karma for cheating.

I had Berto winning 1 round and they had it a draw at the time of the stoppage? What a joke these handpicked Haymon judges are.

[MindBat]

Berto should try to train to have a leaner body instead of constantly beefing up like he's ready for a bodybuilding contest.

My thoughts exactly. I think he might have better luck at the lower weights without all that bulk on his frame.




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[mconstantine]

Karass is not given the props he deserves. I saw a much improved Soto, he gave angles, had a better defense on the outside and inside, good selection of punches.
His Trainer needs to get recognition, i don't think Karass would've made it without him, and thats the truth.

Are you ****ing serious? It's not hard to look better against a 1 armed fighter. A 1 armed Berto still made it a competitive fight.

[wizard king]

Are you ****ing serious? It's not hard to look better against a 1 armed fighter. A 1 armed Berto still made it a competitive fight.

Are you berto number one fan?