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  • Clegg
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    #21
    Originally posted by Bring It On
    I like the way he's saying that he's fought nothing but world-class opponents since the Taylor-fight, and Groves has only fought bums basically.

    Yet they have both fought Glen Johnson during this period.
    Froch fought Johnson when he was coming off of a win over Green and in his fight before that a lot of people had him beating Cloud. Groves fought him when he was on a 3 fight losing streak.

    He was past his best both times. but going into the Froch fight he deserved to be considered top 10 at the weight and going into the Groves fight he didn't. Groves has not faced a top 10 opponent.
    Last edited by Clegg; 07-24-2013, 08:42 AM.

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    • Straightener
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      #22
      Originally posted by daggum
      he's already passed him by a wide margin. calzaghe never beat anyone as good as ward so why does froch have to? the rest of froch's resume completely destroys calzaghe's and froch isn't afraid to fight anyone unlike calzaghe. maybe if froch gets a gift decision against hopkins he will pass him?
      your hate for calzaghe is pathetic.

      your a sad **** that needs to shape up

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      • londoner
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        #23
        Groves is growing into a nicely rounded fighter, a sharp boxer and physically strong, and while Froch is naturally heavy handed I fancy George can throw a more explosive single shot so, yes, Groves does have a chance in this fight. Froch, though, is one hard b*stard and it would take a huge lifetime best performance from the challenger to grab those belts.

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        • Bring It On
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          #24
          Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
          If you think Glen Johnson was the same fighter when Groves got to him, you are quite foolish.
          I didn't say that, but he was already around 300 years old and had 50 losses when Froch fought him. It's not a RJJ 2003 vs 2013-type of situation. Groves beat him much easier too.

          I can't remember his name but Froch fought a very limited fighter before Kessler II as well.
          Last edited by Bring It On; 07-24-2013, 11:32 AM.

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          • Dirk Diggler UK
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            #25
            Originally posted by Bring It On
            I didn't say that, but he was already around 300 years old and had 50 losses when Froch fought him. It's not a RJJ 2003 vs 2013-type of situation. Groves beat him much easier too.

            I can't remember his name but Froch fought a very limited fighter before Kessler II as well.
            When Froch fought him, he had KO'd Allan Green and beat Tavoris Cloud in the eyes of many. Johnson was actually very game against Froch but Froch out-manned him in a way that hadn't been done to Johnson since he lost to Bernard Hopkins in the early 90s.

            By the times Groves got to him, he was just showing up for a paycheque. His fight with Bute prior to Groves was a glorified sparring session. And he also lost to some bum just directly before he fought Groves.

            You're thinking of Youssuf Mack who is the worst name on Froch's recent resume but would be one of the best on Groves'. To try and imply that their resumes are in any way comparable is beyond ******.

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            • PrinceNaz88
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              #26
              Groves will run like he ran against DeGale.

              He will either nick a decision or get knocked out and my money is on the latter.

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              • Bring It On
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                #27
                Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
                When Froch fought him, he had KO'd Allan Green and beat Tavoris Cloud in the eyes of many. Johnson was actually very game against Froch but Froch out-manned him in a way that hadn't been done to Johnson since he lost to Bernard Hopkins in the early 90s.

                By the times Groves got to him, he was just showing up for a paycheque. His fight with Bute prior to Groves was a glorified sparring session. And he also lost to some bum just directly before he fought Groves.

                You're thinking of Youssuf Mack who is the worst name on Froch's recent resume but would be one of the best on Groves'. To try and imply that their resumes are in any way comparable is beyond ******.
                Allan Green was shajt and Cloud isn't all that either. That's right, Mack was his name.

                Listen, I'm not saying Froch has thought weak opposition, because he hasn't. Obviously much tougher than Groves.

                Only reason I even brought it up was because everybody always talks about how honest Froch is etc. Mack wasn't world class, Abraham wasn't world class at SMW etc.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Bring It On
                  Allan Green was shajt and Cloud isn't all that either. That's right, Mack was his name.

                  Listen, I'm not saying Froch has thought weak opposition, because he hasn't. Obviously much tougher than Groves.

                  Only reason I even brought it up was because everybody always talks about how honest Froch is etc. Mack wasn't world class, Abraham wasn't world class at SMW etc.
                  What the hell does "honesty" have to do with it? You're picking at the Mack fight which was the only one in about a line of 9 or 10 fights in a row which you could describe as a tune-up. Froch has literally fought everyone who could be considered elite in his weight division.

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                  • IronDanHamza
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
                    When Froch fought him, he had KO'd Allan Green and beat Tavoris Cloud in the eyes of many. Johnson was actually very game against Froch but Froch out-manned him in a way that hadn't been done to Johnson since he lost to Bernard Hopkins in the early 90s.

                    By the times Groves got to him, he was just showing up for a paycheque. His fight with Bute prior to Groves was a glorified sparring session. And he also lost to some bum just directly before he fought Groves.

                    You're thinking of Youssuf Mack who is the worst name on Froch's recent resume but would be one of the best on Groves'. To try and imply that their resumes are in any way comparable is beyond ******.
                    Yusuf Mack would be far and beyond the best win on Groves' resume and Mack is absolutely terrible.

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                    • hhwff3000
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                      #30
                      Froch will be upset by Groves! You heard it here first. When he says Groves isn't ready, that mindset is going to take over how he prepares for this fight. He will not train as hard as he would if he were to fight Ward or Kessler because he feels he can win this fight on talent alone. Look for a Groves Victory, or a very close points decision for Froch that many call controversial.

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