Has The May-Ghost PPV Buys Been Released Yet?

[Frank Ducketts]

do the math of 870k buys for the pricetage they charged which close 65mil; so that means Showtime and CBS spent 80 mil on that fight I doubt; what funny people will say Stephen said words like will and maybe. But never include Dan Rafeal and Forbes say rumored and sources.

Exactly. If you don't know, then

[dc3383]

They didn't spend all that much promoting it, but they assumed the role of promoter by making that huge guarantee. So the bar to success is the very high break even point, even if in most circumstances 870k is a success.

Floyd purse is guranteed no matter if the PPV does 1 buy; he makes more the better PPV does. CBS banks 4 billion annually who owns Showtime the interest alone wipes out the supposed 12 million they may or may have not lost. Far all intent and purposes Floyd vs Canelo was always the plan for Sept Canelo even said that but he wanted it in writing.

[The Big Dunn]

They didn't spend all that much promoting it, but they assumed the role of promoter by making that huge guarantee. So the bar to success is the very high break even point, even if in most circumstances 870k is a success.

You have to factor in the documentary and the cbs documentary. They spent money but it seems they spent most of it reshaping floyds image as best possible and not so much promoting the fight.

Seeing as how sat nite primetime on cbs aint cheap and they gave him airtime at the final four.they definitely expected more than 1 million ppv buys.

[ßringer]

They didn't spend all that much promoting it, but they assumed the role of promoter by making that huge guarantee. So the bar to success is the very high break even point, even if in most circumstances 870k is a success.

I completely agree. The guarantee is what end up costing them money, but it was obviously an educated gamble on Showtime's part. A short term loss of $10-$20 million is something they may very well make up for with the sales of this Mayweather/Alvarez boxing bonanza. It has all the ingredients to do very, very well in terms of money generated.

Even more interesting is the prospect of sales for Floyd's fights post-Canelo. I don't see anybody else out there that Mayweather can do astronomical numbers with like he'll do with Canelo. There are a lot of respectable/decent fights out there that could perform well enough on PPV, but I don't see anybody else out there for Floyd post-Canelo that will put up the kind of massive numbers needed in order to justify those guarantees.

If this contract with Mayweather is to be a success, I think Showtime is going to have to rely on stacking the rest of his undercards as well as they're doing with this Alvarez bout, because Floyd vs. Khan, Alexander, or whoever just won't sell that well as a stand-alone fight.

[Frank Ducketts]

They will, though the card will be super expensive. They might even make up the money lost on Guerrero. but what then? You just used your trump card, 4 more super expensive fights to go. Showtime's gotta be hoping for a Floyd loss, or a very competitive fight vs Canelo that would make a rematch viable

The reason it took a little longer than usual to put this card together was that they had to do research on the numbers to see if Garcia and Matthysse could be an entity on it's own. They found out that they could make more on the undercard, and that is why they are on the undercard. Canelo Floyd was going to sell regardless. Haters will lie to you because that is what they do, lie.

[The Big Dunn]

Exactly. If you don't know, then

I think at this point its safe to say it did more than dan said or he wouldve posted something and it didn't meet showtimes expectation or they wouldve posted something.

[dc3383]

I said it awhile depending on your agenda is who you will believe about these numbers. There is no proof either way if you want to believe Showtime/Floyd you will go with over 1 mil; if you hate Floyd you will go with 870k simple as that

[Frank Ducketts]

I think at this point its safe to say it did more than dan said or he wouldve posted something and it didn't meet showtimes expectation or they wouldve posted something.

Exactly. As I said, if you don't know then you can't give fans some short order lie to help with your pathetic hate. Common sense always prevails.

[HeroBando]

Floyd purse is guranteed no matter if the PPV does 1 buy; he makes more the better PPV does. CBS banks 4 billion annually who owns Showtime the interest alone wipes out the supposed 12 million they may or may have not lost. Far all intent and purposes Floyd vs Canelo was always the plan for Sept Canelo even said that but he wanted it in writing.

It doesn't work like that. If they had 12m to waste on fringe entertainment like boxing, they could have sunk it into their budget and eclipsed HBO long ago. 12m is massive, their entire budget for last year was 28m. Remember when HBO's budget was all messed up for the year for committing like 3m to Bradley and Alexander's next fight after that fiasco? But in any business losing 40% of you annual budget in one day is tragic.

[mathed]

Heck no......Schaefer said it did well over a mill but I know better. If it did, they would have released the official numbers immediately instead they swept that under the rug and went on to the next big event. No biggie, just be honest and say it bombed...it is what it is.