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  • #31
    Originally posted by waxfondler View Post
    ward cleared out 168, speaks well, gold medalist, undefeated, AMERICAN, etc.

    many reasons why they would put him on HBO compared to rigo.

    i am a fan of rigo, but i TOTALLY understand the notion of him being a tough sell. met him a few times, not a charismatic dude. you gotta be able to SELL a fight like floyd, if you plan to make money as a technical "boring" fighter.

    i compare rigo to winky... highly avoided, and sadly will have a hard time getting the shine he deserves.
    It's the weight more than the style. If Rigo was a welterweight they wouldn't think twice about showing his fights and Arum wouldn't complain at all. If Ward was a bantamweight, he'd be struggling to get fights on TV, wouldn't matter that he was American.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by turnedup View Post
      People don't get it...you cannot blame Arum for this in anyway shape or form..Networks wants fights that put people in front of their tv's and as much as we all like Rigo he's just not an exciting fighter. Is he an artisan at the game of boxing? Yes but that does not translate into casual fans..HBO and Showtime both are not catering to the going 12 rounds of boxing unless it's two sluggers doing it. I said this in the Maidana thread, Slugfest gets people watching and talking and this is a business. They held Donaire vs Rigo at the smallest venue of all in nyc (with the exception of the beacon theatre.) because tens of thousands of people are not going to pay to see Rigo no matter how dominant he is for 12 rounds..if you aren't knocking folks out you aren't pulling in ratings..Mayweather is an anomally simply because people are hoping each fight is the one he loses and the day he loses if he loses I bet you he will have to become offensive minded or risk losing huge purses as well.
      We have to blame Arum, 5 minutes after nonitos defeat he was talking the **** about Rigondeaux and I hhaven't heard anything from HBO, only Arum talking crap...

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      • #33
        Originally posted by jlcelestine View Post
        Agreed 100%. Bob was sh**ing on Rigo mere hours after he had beat Donaire. I would say that is the opposite of promoting.

        And by the way, has everyone forgotten the Teon Kennedy fight?? He dropped him 15 times. Rigo is a guy 12-0 with 8 KO's and 6 Championship fights. He KO'd Rico Ramos for his first belt. Sure he has had some stinkers, but so what? He doesnt fight like that 100% of the time. And I dont think the Donaire fight was boring like everyone makes it out to be.

        Put him in there with WV2, or Jorge Arce. Agbeko, Darchinyan. Keep him away from guys like Moreno, and you will have an entertaining fight. Can my man get a freaking undercard spot?!??
        Remember the look of boredom on ol' Bob's face? It was like he couldn't be bothered promoting his own fighter. SMH

        Rigo has had only one stinker. That was against Cordoba. From the sixth round on, it was like watching grass grow. But Guille has usually torn through his opposition, as evidenced by his KO percentage. (This is coming from a primarily defensive fighter.) If Donaire hadn't of literally run in the final round of their encounter, he would've suffered a KO beatdown of memorable proportions. "El Chacal" would look very interesting versus aggressive fighters, as long as they don't have too much regard for their own health.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Lovci View Post
          I watch every HBO and Showtime card no matter who is fighting. That includes rigo.
          Same here, Rigo isn't in my top 10 current favs or anything but he is good at what he does so I like t watch. If it is a true stinker midway I might flip the channel but I always turn back

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          • #35
            Originally posted by boricuajr23 View Post
            Rigo schooled Donaire and is paying for it. Shame! Why does Arum sign Cuban fighters if he isnt going to put the work in to promote them? Miami has a large Cuban fan base. Why not try to land a HBO card here where he can headline? Everytime I go to a boxing event here and some 2-0 Cuban guy gets announced, you cn tell quickly that the crowd is majority Cuban. They do support their fighters.

            as per HBO like many others, underestimated Rigo. Plain and simple. he ruined there plans. I'm still laughing at all that money I made that night! Lol. "11 fights doesnt earn you a shot at the great Donaire". Lmao.
            honestly, gamboa had potential to be a GREAT hometown fighter. im from south florida, and im telling you right now, rigo is still a tough sell. i HOPE he gets the support he needs & deserves.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by CubanGuyNYC View Post
              Remember the look of boredom on ol' Bob's face? It was like he couldn't be bothered promoting his own fighter. SMH

              Rigo has had only one stinker. That was against Cordoba. From the sixth round on, it was like watching grass grow. But Guille has usually torn through his opposition, as evidenced by his KO percentage. (This is coming from a primarily defensive fighter.) If Donaire hadn't of literally run in the final round of their encounter, he would've suffered a KO beatdown of memorable proportions. "El Chacal" would look very interesting versus aggressive fighters, as long as they don't have too much regard for their own health.
              I was thinking the same thing with all the boring talk. Cordoba was boring, Marroquin was mostly boring, otherwise Rigondeaux has knocked out everyone else. He's not Arturo Gatti or anything, but I wouldn't say he's boring. You know he's going to put most fighters on their asses.

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              • #37
                Sad how much talent rigo has and the love and credit he gets in return. The "experts". Like fatass Dan Rafael are all up on Floyd's nuts after the guerrero fight then they call rigo's donaire performance boring.. come on he schooled battered donaire a p4p fighter .. bob arum greedy old man should just led him out to showtime/goldenboy to fight Santa Cruz marez ponce Gonzalez ..

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                • #38
                  Boxing not brawling! If his beautiful display of footwork, ability to adapt, and ability to easily set traps isnt for you than this sport isnt either. Go watch MMA or hang at a seedy bar and wait.

                  He embarrassed what many ranked as a high P4P, FOTY, and the golden boy of HBO. He should be the one being pushed not the loser.

                  Sign with TR and lose and big things will be coming.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by CubanGuyNYC View Post
                    Remember the look of boredom on ol' Bob's face? It was like he couldn't be bothered promoting his own fighter. SMH

                    Rigo has had only one stinker. That was against Cordoba. From the sixth round on, it was like watching grass grow. But Guille has usually torn through his opposition, as evidenced by his KO percentage. (This is coming from a primarily defensive fighter.) If Donaire hadn't of literally run in the final round of their encounter, he would've suffered a KO beatdown of memorable proportions. "El Chacal" would look very interesting versus aggressive fighters, as long as they don't have too much regard for their own health.
                    Arum has done very well by Rigo, beyond any expectations. Whether purse, title opportunities, keeping busy, whatever, he's been treated amazingly except for the public badmouthing lol. Could be a lot worse, like the bad without the good, like GBP vs Lara.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by bojangles1987 View Post
                      It's the weight more than the style. If Rigo was a welterweight they wouldn't think twice about showing his fights and Arum wouldn't complain at all. If Ward was a bantamweight, he'd be struggling to get fights on TV, wouldn't matter that he was American.
                      i can see this....
                      but i just see rigo having too much in the "tough sell" category.
                      with the likes of provo/bradley, rios/alvarado, GGG... i can totally see HBO saving their budget on more "exciting" fights. unless rigo can SELL fights, they will brush him under the rug.

                      broner & floyd are the PERFECT examples. "boring" fighters need "exciting" personas to sell...

                      rigo is a "boring" fighter, and has a "boring" persona. how do you sell this guy? on skills alone? sadly, thats not the boxing business.

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