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  • Back in the day there was another Cuban that went thru the same thing. They had told him that the american public and the masses didn't like his fine smooth boxing style and had to change it.

    don't remember if it was Kid Gavilan or Kid Chocolate

    His style is not for the masses. Masterful counterpuncher/boxer

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    • Originally posted by STREET CLEANER View Post
      For the masses Rigo's style is boring. He has to be matched up against an action fighter.

      PPL don't know who he is and the few fights that he has been in have been stinkers.

      He doesn't have a crowd pleasing style. All he can do now is to keep winning against top opposition so he will become the man to beat in the division

      You and I both know that either HBO doesn't care about the masses or have no idea about them. Think about - they've broadcasted Chad Dawson time and time again and nobody cares about him. They've broadcasted Tarver, Winky, Cory Spinks, Devon Alexander multiple times. It's not about masses, it's about the promoter Bob Arum not pushing his product. Steve Kim and others say that Gary Shaw is a televison packager but he sure made millionaire out of Devn and Timothy - two fighters who are "boring"

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      • Originally posted by TOBYLEE1 View Post
        Back in the day there was another Cuban that went thru the same thing. They had told him that the american public and the masses didn't like his fine smooth boxing style and had to change it.

        don't remember if it was Kid Gavilan or Kid Chocolate

        His style is not for the masses. Masterful counterpuncher/boxer
        Again masses - what are you talking about? How is Wlad's, Floyd's, Ward's, Dawson's, Devon Alexander, Bradley's style for the masses?

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        • Originally posted by TOBYLEE1 View Post
          Back in the day there was another Cuban that went thru the same thing. They had told him that the american public and the masses didn't like his fine smooth boxing style and had to change it.

          don't remember if it was Kid Gavilan or Kid Chocolate

          His style is not for the masses. Masterful counterpuncher/boxer
          Hard to say which. I'm not an expert on either, but both men were celebrated in their time. If what you're saying is correct, I would have to guess it was Chocolate. Gavilan was basically a TV star. He had a very exciting style. Chocolate fought very much like a modern fighter. It's kind of weird to watch that old, grainy B&W footage and see that legend move like a great fighter does today.

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          • Rigo's performance against Donaire was excellent, exceptional even and beautiful to watch but the reality is without a huge built in fan base like Mexican or Puerto Rican boxers and with his style he isn't going to be very popular with the mainsteam casual boxing fans.

            Matching him up with LSC or someone with a style to try and make things slightly more exciting and putting him on a card with a more fan friendly co-feature would be a good ideas. HBO should also make an effort to "sell" Rigo with their commentary and highlight his skills trying to get casual fans to appreciate it, they had no problem doing it for Mayweather fights that were onesided borefests with little action. He's never going to be an immensely popular superstar though and people need to have realistic expectations.

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            • Originally posted by Mikhnienko View Post
              Rigo's performance against Donaire was excellent, exceptional even and beautiful to watch but the reality is without a huge built in fan base like Mexican or Puerto Rican boxers and with his style he isn't going to be very popular with the mainsteam casual boxing fans.

              Matching him up with LSC or someone with a style to try and make things slightly more exciting and putting him on a card with a more fan friendly co-feature would be a good ideas. HBO should also make an effort to "sell" Rigo with their commentary and highlight his skills trying to get casual fans to appreciate it, they had no problem doing it during Mayweather fights that were onesided borefests ith little action. He's never going to be an immensely popular superstar though and people need to have realistic expectations.
              It's hard for HBO to sell him when his own promoter is crapping on him. If you noticed HBO only started to crap on him once it saw Arum doing it.

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              • Originally posted by CubanGuyNYC View Post
                Hard to say which. I'm not an expert on either, but both men were celebrated in their time. If what you're saying is correct, I would have to guess it was Chocolate. Gavilan was basically a TV star. He had a very exciting style. Chocolate fought very much like a modern fighter. It's kind of weird to watch that old, grainy B&W footage and see that legend move like a great fighter does today.
                Kid Chocolate vs Toni Canzoneri is one of my favourite pieces of footage from that era. Amazing stuff.

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                • At times HBO act like scumbags, especially when they are dealing with Arum & Sulaiman & do them favors..They(HBO & Arum) thought Donaire was going to easily beat Rigondeaux & this way it would look really good on his record & had bigger plans for Donaire, but when Rigondeaux didn't cooperate & schooled Donaire in a UD win, they got upset with Rigo for ruining their plans & now want to "Black Ball" Rigondeaux with the excuses that he doesn't sell ect ect..Arum & Sulaiman tried to do something similar to Sergio Martinez with HBO's help when Zbik was the mandatory for Sergio's WBC title(at the time) & HBO said they were NOT interested in Zbik & instead HBO said they would rather have Martinez fight undefeated(at the time)154lbs WBO world champ Serhiy Dzinziruk & after Martinez beat Dzinziruk(by KO) Sulaiman stripped Martinez & LITERALLY GAVE the WBC title to Zbik & daclared him the new world champion(without having to fight for it) then Arum along with HBO had Julio Cesar Chavez jr challenge Zbik for the WBC title on HBO! & HBO was all for it!! After Chavez Jr had the title, Arum & Jr avoided Martinez as much as they could & Arum milked Jr as long as he could by having him defend the title against dud's until he had no choice & fought Martinez..
                  Last edited by Tomasio; 07-11-2013, 06:28 PM.

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                  • One would think HBO has learned their lesson. They're ****** if they don't want to showcase Rigo. In ring performance-wise, this is their Mayweather.

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                    • Originally posted by CubanGuyNYC View Post
                      Hard to say which. I'm not an expert on either, but both men were celebrated in their time. If what you're saying is correct, I would have to guess it was Chocolate. Gavilan was basically a TV star. He had a very exciting style. Chocolate fought very much like a modern fighter. It's kind of weird to watch that old, grainy B&W footage and see that legend move like a great fighter does today.
                      Teofilo Stevenson was the truth

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