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  • Originally posted by malcolm View Post
    lmao!

    do we really need to go there? how many times has this been debated?

    bottom line is this: floyd beat the atg juan marquez. an older version of marquez knocked out pacquiao.
    first off, not prime is he?
    and, fat marquez, pre-heredia marquez, piss drinking marquez?

    it takes a blinded one(in your case, due to race) to think the marquez floyd fought was better than the marquez pacquiao fought(in all occasions)

    you realise marquez jumped, what was it? 3 weight classes? to fight floyd

    3 weight classes, in 2-3 months, and with all the piss he was drinking those lb's were probabley just piss weight

    and lol, floyd didn't even make the weight

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    • Originally posted by malcolm View Post
      You sound highly naive about race. Who's going to say "yea I hate Mayweather because he's black?". Not too many people have the NUTS to say that. But just because you don't hear ppl say that, you automatically think it doesn't exist? Like I said you sound very naive.

      I challenge you to play a game on XBOX LIVE (pose as a black person) and tell me about some of the messages in your inbox.

      I challenge you to go to an African American website and browse down at the random comments. You’ll eventually see what I'm talking about.

      As far as other African American boxers getting hated on because of their race, it happened to them as well.

      Roy Jones was hated on for the majority of his career. Are you even old enough to have watched a PRIME Roy Jones? Roy was hated on almost in the same fashion Floyd gets hated on today.

      They said he was a fluke. He was hiding a glass chin. He was a duck. A cherry picker. He was boring. He wasn't a draw. He was a Primadonna. He wasn't a HOF.

      Most of the AA fighters that dont get hate are the ones that will "play the game". Humble with a "Yes Sir" vibe. Ex: Sugar Shane Mosley.

      Do some research on Jack Johnson. You'll learn a lot about the African American plight in the sport of boxing.
      I don’t know if you can read well. I said guys like Ali Frazier Foreman and Roy don’t take heat on this website for being black. Thats what I said, Roy still gets hated on till this day and some of hit he deserves, some of it he doesn’t. And I am not saying Racism has been abolished today, but I am saying on this website, if someone actually say something that you might think is racist about Floyd, its probably more of a stereotype jab instead of real racism.

      Because to hate Floyd because he’s black, would mean they hate Ali, Frazier Robinson, Foreman….etc, which I don’t think is the case. Do they hate his ****** ways and how he shows mostly the bad things about him self? probably but I doubt the majority on this board who hate Floyd are racist.

      By the I am half black half spanish, James Toney is my favorite fighter of all time, and I know pretty much everything about the 1990s of boxing. The race card is pretty much invalid.

      And why are you bringing up Jack Johnson, I’m probably older than you by the way, and know a lot about Jack Johnson, but we are talking about racism today, not in the past. Stay on topic.
      Last edited by PurePugilist216; 07-10-2013, 12:14 PM.

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      • Originally posted by TheHolyCross View Post
        first off, not prime is he?
        and, fat marquez, pre-heredia marquez, piss drinking marquez?

        it takes a blinded one(in your case, due to race) to think the marquez floyd fought was better than the marquez pacquiao fought(in all occasions)

        you realise marquez jumped, what was it? 3 weight classes? to fight floyd

        3 weight classes, in 2-3 months, and with all the piss he was drinking those lb's were probabley just piss weight

        and lol, floyd didn't even make the weight
        The Marquez that ko`ed Pac juice was not only older and slower then the version that Floyd beat,But also he was on his way to getting stopped then Pacquiao ran right into his right hand.And Floyd was coming off a 2 year layoff when he fought Marquez and he looked rusty to me.And Marquez jumped 2 weight class to fight Floyd and Floyd only outweighed him by 5 pounds on fight night which is common in fights.And Floyd has been pass his prime ever since the Delahoya fight so no advantages their.

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        • Originally posted by PurePugilist216 View Post
          I don’t know if you can read well. I said guys like Ali Frazier Foreman and Roy don’t take heat on this website for being black. Thats what I said, Roy still gets hated on till this day and some of hit he deserves, some of it he doesn’t. And I am not saying Racism has been abolished today, but I am saying on this website, if someone actually say something that you might think is racist about Floyd, its probably more of a stereotype jab instead of real racism.

          Because to hate Floyd because he’s black, would mean they hate Ali, Frazier Robinson, Foreman….etc, which I don’t think is the case. Do they hate his ****** ways and how he shows mostly the bad things about him self? probably but I doubt the majority on this board who hate Floyd are racist.

          By the I am half black half spanish, James Toney is my favorite fighter of all time, and I know pretty much everything about the 1990s of boxing. The race card is pretty much invalid.

          And why are you bringing up Jack Johnson, I’m probably older than you by the way, and know a lot about Jack Johnson, but we are talking about racism today, not in the past. Stay on topic.



          So are you saying nobody makes racist comments against Floyd and other black fighters?I read racist comments about black boxers on this board all the time.Its much more covert these days because the mods began banning people.And stop bringing up Ray Robinson,Ali and Roy.Roy is washed up and those other 2 don`t fight anymore and 1 of them is dead so theirs nothing to hate on.Some people hate Floyd because of his attitude while some hate him cause a combination of his attitude and his race.And a lot of people claim they half black when they want to make their argument seem strong.

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          • Originally posted by boxingfeind View Post
            So are you saying nobody makes racist comments against Floyd and other black fighters?I read racist comments about black boxers on this board all the time.Its much more covert these days because the mods began banning people.And stop bringing up Ray Robinson,Ali and Roy.Roy is washed up and those other 2 don`t fight anymore and 1 of them is dead so theirs nothing to hate on.Some people hate Floyd because of his attitude while some hate him cause a combination of his attitude and his race.And a lot of people claim they half black when they want to make their argument seem strong.
            First of all I also brought up Andre Ward as well, second I can bring up old fighters because its not about hating, its about racism and if these posters on here are that, then they would also hate those fighters, and I usually see nothing but praise. I am half black and half spanish , thats a another fact and I didn’t use to make my argument stronger but I saw Malcom was making comments as if I wouldn’t understand anything about black fighters or the black community.

            And you Flo-mos need to chill out, people hate the guy because he doesn’t fight certain fighters then brags he’s the best of all time, and he’s in strip clubs burning dollars bills, people also cheer for humble fighters which he is not those are the main reasons, not his race.

            Last stop being literal, of course there are racist people on these forums, but I’m talking about the majority, and the majority hate Floyd, and every Floyd hater I ever spoke in person to, said they hated him because he’s a ducker, has a big mouth and didn’t fight certain fighters. Not that I agree with them, but they’re entitled to their own opinion

            So please chill out and stop making up reasons, if someone is going to brag about how much money they have, and talk to a stack of money like they’re not
            36 years old then what do you expect for people to do.

            Also he is also hated because he is the best right now, thats a fact, when your on top people always want to see you fall, then they want you to rise again, it has happened to every fighter. I hate the sympathy Flo-mos give this guy, like oh he does’t get enough credit, who cares, he will when it retires thats how it always happens, Tyson was probably the most hated athlete at one point in his career, now people love him. Thats the way it works shut up about race.
            Last edited by PurePugilist216; 07-10-2013, 04:48 PM.

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            • Originally posted by TheHolyCross View Post
              first off, not prime is he?
              and, fat marquez, pre-heredia marquez, piss drinking marquez?

              it takes a blinded one(in your case, due to race) to think the marquez floyd fought was better than the marquez pacquiao fought(in all occasions)

              you realise marquez jumped, what was it? 3 weight classes? to fight floyd

              3 weight classes, in 2-3 months, and with all the piss he was drinking those lb's were probabley just piss weight

              and lol, floyd didn't even make the weight
              You forgot JMM wants nothing to do with fighting Floyd again lol , and he said Floyd beats Manny as did Hatton , Mosley , Cotto , now whats that all about kid lol .

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              • Some how some way may v pac rears its ugly head into my thread.

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                • TS is high lol. Matthyse is nowhere near May's level. Maybe when Floyd gets older.

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                  • If Floyd goes out there and dominates Canelo, there's no way anyone should be thinking this.

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                    • Originally posted by Khalid Muhammad View Post
                      regardless of whether you think he got robbed against Judah and Alexander, the fact is that both did enough to make it a competitive fight.

                      Lucas gets embarrassed by Floyd and only has a punchers shot.
                      Cotto made it competitive with Floyd and he doesn't have the power or relentlessness Matthysse has. Lucas has more than a puncher's shot.
                      Last edited by El Angel; 07-11-2013, 02:20 AM.

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