Loud And Clear : Matthysse Beats Mayweather

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  • Kagami Taiga
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    #181
    Originally posted by El Angel
    Cotto made it competitive with Floyd and he doesn't have the power or relentless Matthysse has. Lucas has more than a puncher's shot.
    Cotto is bigger, stronger and has the best jab under heavyweight. It's not st all the same thing.

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    • El Angel
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      #182
      Originally posted by DempseyRollin
      If Floyd goes out there and dominates Canelo, there's no way anyone should be thinking this.
      Depends on how Canelo fights too, if he shells up and gets overly patient like he tends to, that really shouldn't change how someone views a Matthysse vs Mayweather bout playing out.

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        #183
        Originally posted by Mannie Phresh
        Mannie Phresh here to tell you that I the phreshest knows and am proud to proclaim that la machina beats money. He will make it easy work of Swift sissy and then take care of 147. His growth since the Zab and Devon robberies is remarkable. Truly I say to you that Peterson was the last best hope for the doubters. Lucas has arrived. He requires sustenance. Phili sustenance.
        Well that's scientific.

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        • Kagami Taiga
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          #184
          Originally posted by El Angel
          Depends on how Canelo fights too, if he shells up and gets overly patient like he tends to, that really shouldn't change how someone views a Matthysse vs Mayweather bout playing out.
          U misunderstand me, I don't think Canelo is better than mathysse at all. But eight hat said, I think he's more dangerous for Floyd simply because of his size. Mathysse will not present that level of danger and he's not skilled enough to make up for the size difference either, which is why I said what I said.

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            #185
            Originally posted by DempseyRollin
            Cotto is bigger, stronger and has the best jab under heavyweight. It's not st all the same thing.
            I think amir khan has the best jab under heavyweight he just doesn't ever use it properly. I also have to say I am more intrigued by mayweather Matt than mayweather canelo.

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            • El Angel
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              #186
              Originally posted by DempseyRollin
              Cotto is bigger, stronger and has the best jab under heavyweight. It's not st all the same thing.
              Matthysse doesn't gas late in the fight though and he has more one punch power than Cotto. The jab was crucial for Cotto, when he actually threw it, which he did a lot less of as the fight wore. Obviously having not seen him at true WW yet, not a dumb 141 CW, maybe it could affect negatively moving up or help him. He did look drained against Peterson in some pre fight photos.

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                #187
                Originally posted by DempseyRollin
                If Floyd goes out there and dominates Canelo, there's no way anyone should be thinking this.


                Theres no way anyone should be thinking this now, period.

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                • Kagami Taiga
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                  #188
                  Originally posted by El Angel
                  Matthysse doesn't gas late in the fight though and he has more one punch power than Cotto. The jab was crucial for Cotto, when he actually threw it, which he did a lot less of as the fight wore. Obviously having not seen him at true WW yet, not a dumb 141 CW, maybe it could affect negatively moving up or help him. He did look drained against Peterson in some pre fight photos.
                  His one punch power being greater than cotto's is very arguable. And cotto's success was because of his jab and his strength, no matter how u cut it, mathysse doesn't have those. He also isn't as skilled a boxer as cotto. It's very hard to see how he compares to cotto.

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                    #189
                    Originally posted by el***
                    Theres no way anyone should be thinking this now, period.
                    I agree but we don't know if Floyd ages overnight either.

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                      #190
                      Originally posted by DempseyRollin
                      His one punch power being greater than cotto's is very arguable. And cotto's success was because of his jab and his strength, no matter how u cut it, mathysse doesn't have those. He also isn't as skilled a boxer as cotto. It's very hard to see how he compares to cotto.
                      Style wise? No they're not very similar. But I feel the things that Matthysse does well, he can do for the full 12 rounds and they could trouble Floyd. I'm more saying that I believe that Matthysse can do just as well as Cotto, not necessarily the styles they'd use/used against Floyd.

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