Gatti, Baldomir and Golovkin. Fightnight weights

[The Big Dunn]

if i missed the point, it's cause it's poorly stated:



Obiously he wouldn't have to move up to fight GGG, unless it's the historical 2lb jump you're talking about

you missed the point because you are evaluating only that piece and not the whole post.

[BattlingNelson]

It says nothing. The gatti and baldo fights were at a completely different stage of floyd's career. They were both champions in the weight classes floyd moved to.

GGG is the MW champion and floyd is almost 37. I dont see floyd moving to MW before he retires.

The point is that Floyds alleged weight disadvantage in a Golovkin fight is the same as in the fights with Gatti and Baldomir (and Canelo).

So what I'm saying is that weight is not a proper excuse to avoid a Golovkin fight. It would be much better if Floyd stans like yourself came clean and said that Golovkin presents too much danger for Floyd at this point in his career.

[The Big Dunn]

The point is that Floyds alleged weight disadvantage in a Golovkin fight is the same as in the fights with Gatti and Baldomir (and Canelo).

So what I'm saying is that weight is not a proper excuse to avoid a Golovkin fight. It would be much better if Floyd stans like yourself came clean and said that Golovkin presents too much danger for Floyd at this point in his career.

I haven't argued that about the weight. If some floyd fans are saying that fine thats their opinion.

At this point in floyd's career why would any fight with a MW champion be discussed before fights at ww? It has nothing to do with GGG being dangerous. It has to do with the current state of boxing and just plain common sense.

GGG mentioning floyd is nothing more than idle chatter. We all know it. There are fights against HBO backed fighters-ward and chavez specifically-that are both profitable (not as much as floyd) and would give him a belt in an additional weight class and are far easier to make.

Why aren't we discussing why HBO won't make those fights rather than the likelihood of a cross network promoted CW title fight for the non lineal MW title?

[odogg8121]

I haven't argued that about the weight. If some floyd fans are saying that fine thats their opinion.

At this point in floyd's career why would any fight with a MW champion be discussed before fights at ww? It has nothing to do with GGG being dangerous. It has to do with the current state of boxing and just plain common sense.

GGG mentioning floyd is nothing more than idle chatter. We all know it. There are fights against HBO backed fighters-ward and chavez specifically-that are both profitable (not as much as floyd) and would give him a belt in an additional weight class and are far easier to make.

Why aren't we discussing why HBO won't make those fights rather than the likelihood of a cross network promoted CW title fight for the non lineal MW title?

Close thread please lol

[Fetta]

Not even pass Canelo yet and already some are getting their "hes ducking GGG" posts ready.

[BattlingNelson]

I haven't argued that about the weight. If some floyd fans are saying that fine thats their opinion.

So you are ok with that opinion. Why?

At this point in floyd's career why would any fight with a MW champion be discussed before fights at ww? It has nothing to do with GGG being dangerous. It has to do with the current state of boxing and just plain common sense.

I'm sorry, but that's an odd opinion. Floyd has just signed a multifight deal with Showtime so discussing future fights is surely highly relevant on a boxing messageboard.

GGG mentioning floyd is nothing more than idle chatter. We all know it. There are fights against HBO backed fighters-ward and chavez specifically-that are both profitable (not as much as floyd) and would give him a belt in an additional weight class and are far easier to make.

Idle chatter? I disagree. De La Hoya was the biggest moneyfight available for Floyd just as Floyd is for Golovkin.

Why aren't we discussing why HBO won't make those fights rather than the likelihood of a cross network promoted CW title fight for the non lineal MW title?

Make a thread on that subject if you like.

[BattlingNelson]

Not even pass Canelo yet and already some are getting their "hes ducking GGG" posts ready.

Do you think Floyd should fight GGG after he has beaten Canelo?

[Kagami Taiga]

So you are ok with that opinion. Why?

I'm sorry, but that's an odd opinion. Floyd has just signed a multifight deal with Showtime so discussing future fights is surely highly relevant on a boxing messageboard.



Idle chatter? I disagree. De La Hoya was the biggest moneyfight available for Floyd just as Floyd is for Golovkin.

Make a thread on that subject if you like.

de la hoya was the biggest money fight for floyd but the same was true vice versa. and that fight was infinitely easier to make for numerous reasons. golovkin brings nothing to the table for a floyd fight. hes a paper champion in a division where hes done very little. floyd is the biggest money fight for everyone, so why not talk about floyd vs everyone from 140 to 168??

[Fetta]

Do you think Floyd should fight GGG after he has beaten Canelo?

No i dont! Hes a MW with plenty of MW or SMW fights available. Why should he go down to 154 if he fights at 160?

Remember how much credit and respect Ward got for beating Dawson when Dawson said he would drop down and did? Yeah this would be worse. No need for this fight.

[FromBA]

The point is that Floyds alleged weight disadvantage in a Golovkin fight is the same as in the fights with Gatti and Baldomir (and Canelo).

So what I'm saying is that weight is not a proper excuse to avoid a Golovkin fight. It would be much better if Floyd stans like yourself came clean and said that Golovkin presents too much danger for Floyd at this point in his career.

The weight IS an issue because on the ring the middleweight guy is often a light heavyweight. A welterweight boxer should never fight a middleweight one, if the last one is competitive. In 1974 the middleweight champion, Carlos Monzón, defended his crown in Paris against the welterweight champion, "Mantequilla" Nápoles. Nápoles was an astounding boxer-puncher. Monzón almost killed him (photo). It was RTD in round 6.