Was I The Only One Impressed By Broner?

[Tay Roc]

If he wants to be elite, then he needs to prove it INSIDE of the ring. We all know he's very talented, but can he put it all together? Right now he's looking more like Berto than Floyd. That's NOT what's up.

[Jcsuper]

All these threads about "I told you so" and blah blah blah.

Again, I cant stress this enough. Just 2 fights ago the dude was at SFW. He was fighting at 130, had just 2 fights at LW, and now is at WW. That is a big jump. Doing all this while he's 23 but he sucks if he doesnt wreck a world champ like Paulie? I dont get it. That was a highly motivated Paulie too.

1st off, I was probably the 1st guy on this site hyping Paulie back in the day. Im a big fan. Ive met both these guys in person and both are really cool guys despite what others think. I remember when pretty much everyone use to hate Paulie and now they all love him. Its funny & convienent.

I go back to the weigh-in. As soon as I saw the vid of them together & face to face, I felt that Broner wouldnt blow him out. I dont care how big you guys think Broner is for the lower weights, its still totally different from fighting a small 130 pounder then it is a WW. Thats an adjustment that he has made in a short trip. Even if you think Paulie is feather fisted, thats not easy to do.

When Broner had the tough fight with Ponce, everyone was ripping him. I said that I thought he looked like the goods but like mostly everyone in boxing, he just struggled because PDL is a Southpaw. I said he would look way better against a righty and sure enough he did. I dont give guys a hard time for struggling with Southpaws. Thats the reason why I give Lucas a break for his fights with Devon & Zab.

As for this fight, I saw some good & bad with Broner. Again, he didnt move much but just like his fights at the lower weights, I didnt think he respected Paulie's Offense so he just tried to stay in the pocket and walk through him. If he foguht a puncher then I think he would move more. Not totally but he would move more.

From watchign the fight I felt Broner was on a totally different level than Paullie. You felt that any second he was about to step it up and start taking Paulie out but you kept waiting & waiting and he never could. Just minor flurries. The main thing to me though is that alot of that and alot of Broner's so called "non power" was due to Paulie.

1st off Paulie has a good chin but I was watching the fght with my girl and I was telling her that everytime Broner lets his hands go, Paulie would bend down real low and come forward which would smother Broner's punches so he couldnt get full power. He did it all fight. Go rewatch it. Therefore Broner couldnt ever open up like he wanted to and he had to throw more arm punches with less power to find the target. When Broner would look for that then Paulie would bend back.

No other guy at 140-147 fights like that. Broner wouldnt have any problem landing full power blows on every other guy because they mostly all are aggressive fighters who are open. None of them do that lil duck & in move. Its kinda like what Floyd was doing to the Ghost alot so he wouldnt get countered.

I hear alot of people saying it was a robbery. Come on now. Thats pure hate. Even if you think Paulie won, there is no way it could be a robbery. It was a close fight that could be somewhat hard to score.

As for the future, Broner said he would let the fans pick his opponent and ofcourse everyone comes up with Lucas who is like the new Margarito in terms of hype. Its like they all totally forgot about the Garcia fight and they hate Broner so much that they want to see him get KTFO. Broner sucks but if Lucas struggles with Devon & Zab, he gets a pass? I dont get how that works.

I see some dudes acting like girls like Lucas is coming to save them or saying "I present to you Lucas "The Machine" Mathysse" for Broner's next opponent. The dude is 23. Lets be real, he's not goign to fight him nor should he. As long as he fights a good guy then he's still right on sked. Still, how is this any different then people demanding that Lucas fight Floyd next? Who do you really think would win that? Stop doing stuff just to see guys lose and start being reasonable.

I would love to see him fight Maidana next. Thats the perfect next matchup. A couple of weeks ago everyone was acting like Marcos was a beast after the Lopez fight and everyone wanted to see him fight his Countrymen in Lucas but when Broner might fight him, they act like its a cherry pick or its a typical protected fight. The double standard is crazy.

I would even be fine with Broner fighting at 140. When was the last time you ever saw a guy fight in 4 different divisions in 6 fights besides Pac? Thats big time stuff. I saw one guy said hes garbage and he will definitely lose within the next 6 fights if he fights quality opponents. Im like, how does that make him garbage? Any guy could lose in the next 6 if they are fighting quality guys. They all have pretty much. All these guys around these divisions are good and there is no shame in losing to them.

If he loses, then what? It means he's a bum? You have to be undefeated now? Then you wonder why guys start to cherry pick but you rip them if they lose. You dont even wait for losses now. If its a close fight then he's a bum. I wouldnt put Broner in with Ghost or Ortiz or anyone like that. Stay away from the Southpaws who are big until he gets a lil more seasoned. Fight Maidana. Thats a great fight

You're way to logical for boxingscene. Stop with the logic, begin to act like a ******ed man and you'll be fine on boxingscene.

All I see is hate threads, I don't know what people expected, the guy is 23 yrs old, moving from 130 lbs to 147 lbs in a short period of time and they want him to ko a defensive minded 147 lbs that even Cotto was not able to stop ? That's where you see that people on this site just don't know boxing. Yes Broner is hyped, yes must people at 147 lbs would beat him, yes he will never be Floyd. I agree with all that stuff, however what he did was really hard for ANY fighter. I would love to see Matthysse move two weight classes in a single fight, fight a defensive fighter at 154lbs and see if he destroys the guy.

[DIB42]

I wasn't impressed. Walking into Paulie's punches and shaking your head for 12 rounds doesn't really "Blow my mind." ... It was a good fight for him, he did what he needed to do to win, but didn't impress. I had him winning 7 to 5, but it easily could have been 10-2 if he was just a little more active. A lot of rounds were close and could be argued for either fighter, but I'm a "close goes to the champion" kind of guy.

I think Broner will be very good and on to good things. His attitude will make him lots of money, like it did Floyd for a long time. People will buy his fights hoping he loses.

[DIB42]

You're way to logical for boxingscene. Stop with the logic, begin to act like a ******ed man and you'll be fine on boxingscene.

All I see is hate threads, I don't know what people expected, the guy is 23 yrs old, moving from 130 lbs to 147 lbs in a short period of time and they want him to ko a defensive minded 147 lbs that even Cotto was not able to stop ? That's where you see that people on this site just don't know boxing. Yes Broner is hyped, yes must people at 147 lbs would beat him, yes he will never be Floyd. I agree with all that stuff, however what he did was really hard for ANY fighter. I would love to see Matthysse move two weight classes in a single fight, fight a defensive fighter at 154lbs and see if he destroys the guy.

A spiraling downward hatton stopped him . . . just sayin'

[New England]

i'd give him more credit for the jump in weight if it weren't a pretty blatant attempt to duck lucas matthysse. he fought paulie malignaggi, a career jr WW who can't punch a lick. it wasn't an easy fight, though i thought he won. it's clear now that he's not looking for a tough fight, and that he's going to have real issues at 147 if he fights anybody decent.

i'll obviously be looking closely at his next fight. he'll get more respect from me if he fights a solid fighter @ 140 or 147 regardless. he's in his prime. this is the time when he should be taking big fights for big money, and making his case for a shot at floyd mayweather. he's not doing that at all, and still getting paid.

this is a guy who calls himself about billions. so far no good.

[Kuyukut]

you are right, you're the only one butthurt about broner getting exposed as a mediocre class c fighter.

[Jcsuper]

i'd give him more credit for the jump in weight if it weren't a pretty blatant attempt to duck lucas matthysse. he fought paulie malignaggi, a career jr WW who can't punch a lick. it wasn't an easy fight, though i thought he won. it's clear now that he's not looking for a tough fight, and that he's going to have real issues at 147 if he fights anybody decent.

i'll obviously be looking closely at his next fight. he'll get more respect from me if he fights a solid fighter @ 140 or 147 regardless. he's in his prime. this is the time when he should be taking big fights for big money, and making his case for a shot at floyd mayweather. he's not doing that at all, and still getting paid.

this is a guy who calls himself about billions. so far no good.

From all the critics I've heard about Broner, this really is the best post. I totally agree that the worst part about this fight was that he didnt move 2 weight classes to make a statement but just to avoid some fighters at 140lbs while he probably thought Malignaggi would be an easy fight.

[Main Source]

I think Broner's mouth and his unsportsmanlike conduct cost him the fight and the fans respect. He said over and over again that he would knock Paulie out badly. Even after the fight he was still talking despite not giving the promised knock out. All that *****-talk and he couldn't hurt Paulie - even when standing in front of him.

But like I've said before. Broner is talented and he has potential and he can still "grow". He is very young. It's just his attitude that ruins it for him. It takes the focus out of his boxing. He was accurate against Paulie but he was also surprisingly inactive at times. And when he finally got hit by clean punches he just shook his head, moved forward and didn't really do anything. He fought in bursts and when he landed hard and clean shots he decided to hit the brakes. Maybe to admire his own work?

....Just like a modern day Chad Dawson.

[DIB42]

i'd give him more credit for the jump in weight if it weren't a pretty blatant attempt to duck lucas matthysse. he fought paulie malignaggi, a career jr WW who can't punch a lick. it wasn't an easy fight, though i thought he won. it's clear now that he's not looking for a tough fight, and that he's going to have real issues at 147 if he fights anybody decent.

i'll obviously be looking closely at his next fight. he'll get more respect from me if he fights a solid fighter @ 140 or 147 regardless. he's in his prime. this is the time when he should be taking big fights for big money, and making his case for a shot at floyd mayweather. he's not doing that at all, and still getting paid.

this is a guy who calls himself about billions. so far no good.

I didn't want to say this, but I suspected he jumped the 140 division because its loaded with talent, but 147 has the weaker opposition and the money fights right now.

It was best chance at grabbing a belt in the higher weight classes of who's out there, in my opinion, and a good matchup for him. I hope he didn't duck the 140 division, but it does look like it.

[DIB42]

I think Broner's mouth and his unsportsmanlike conduct cost him the fight and the fans respect. He said over and over again that he would knock Paulie out badly. Even after the fight he was still talking despite not giving the promised knock out. All that *****-talk and he couldn't hurt Paulie - even when standing in front of him.

But like I've said before. Broner is talented and he has potential and he can still "grow". He is very young. It's just his attitude that ruins it for him. It takes the focus out of his boxing. He was accurate against Paulie but he was also surprisingly inactive at times. And when he finally got hit by clean punches he just shook his head, moved forward and didn't really do anything. He fought in bursts and when he landed hard and clean shots he decided to hit the brakes. Just like a modern day Chad Dawson.

Unfortunately his unsportsmanlike conduct and attitude is going to make him a fortune.

Instead of his boxing skillz. (which he shows a lot of promise for a 23 year old)