When was the last time Mayweather faced a legitimate Threat?

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  • IronDanHamza
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    #41
    Originally posted by Light_Speed
    Now Mosley was shot before the fight.

    When he got in the ring after Floyd/Marquez it was "Floyd will never fight Mosley because he's the real #1 WW and a legit threat". 4 months later when the fight was signed : "Only reason why Floyd is fighting him is because he knows he's shot". I've never seen fans do a 180 so quickly, it was hilarious.
    Even in the build up to the fight he wasn't considered shot. Even DURING the fight he wasn't shot. Only until after, or abour round 6 to be exact.

    In the build up it was "Mayweather get's credit from me for this fight"

    But of course after the fight that all changed.

    Watch it happen with Canelo.

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    • boliodogs
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      #42
      The pro odds makers have Floyd as a 2.5 to 1 betting favorite. Floyd has been at least a 4 to 1 and often a 7 to 1 betting favorite in all of his past fights for the last 6 years. This means that even though the oddsmakers expect Floyd to win that Canelo is a live underdog and Canelo winning would not be a huge upset. I am picking Canelo to win. The fact that Floyd would not fight him at the full 154 shows that team Mayweather are a little bit worried no matter what they say about easy work.

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      • p4p-champ
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        #43
        The last legitimate threat was in 1978 against Ray Leonard....In all seriousness though, troll about it all you want. Mayweather Jr's skill level has been so far ahead the rest of boxing that there really hasn't been 'legitimate' threats out there. Even the same Canelo you claim to be a serious threat will turn out to be just like all the rest.

        I think the better question is, when was the last time there was a boxer as skilled and talented as Mayweather Jr? If you claim Pacquiao, you should be watching MMA.
        Last edited by p4p-champ; 06-20-2013, 09:16 AM.

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        • The Big Dunn
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          #44
          Originally posted by Imatroll
          First I want to say Mayweather picking Canelo was very shocking news. I was doubting the fight ever happening. Though, I don't agree with the 152lb catch-weight, I give Mayweather full credit for taking on our future of boxing, Canelo.

          Honestly when was the last time Mayweather faced legitimate opposition? It definitely was not overweight Hatton/JMM, shot Mosley, nor was it dancing with the stars Ortiz. Oh you say Cotto? ..oh you say he fought the best version of him at 154lb? No.. there's a reason why Mayweather had no problem jumping to fight Cotto at 154lb, he was "not" a threat and had 2 critical losses on his record.

          .. But Imatroll, he fought the Ghost and dominated him for 12 rounds. Negative, that fight should've never happened. I'm pretty sure 99.9% of the boxing world (beside his dad) knew Floyd was going to run through this C- level fighter.

          Canelo. Canelo. Canelo. Asking for the catchweight already exposed Floyd is concerned after just chanting and preaching about how he wants his opponents to be at a comfortable weight. It doesn't matter, Canelo will come in ready and in shape, I'm not worried.

          I can proudly say Canelo is the first legitimate threat Floyd has faced in years. The guy is accurate, has power, and paces himself well. He can box well and pressure if needed. I don't believe his staminia will be an issue because Floyd's work rate is nonexistent. I'm confident Canelo will make training to cut the ring off his priority in camp because this will be the key to victory. Cotto did this well and hopefully Canelo takes lessons from this.

          The only strategy Floyd has is getting on his bicycle and pot shotting all night. Floyd's in for a big surprise. Canelo will effectively cut the ring off and negate the tactic.

          I'm 100% sure Floyd is going to get handed his first loss. Floyd will get walked down and punished. Canelo will win by Mid-late TKO. I've never been this sure and I will bump this ***** after fight night.

          For all the nut huggers of Floyd saying put your money where your mouth is, I sure am. Will be betting $2000 on Canelo. woooo!
          about the last time you made a legitimate thread or post

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          • boxer2k5
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            #45
            He's never faced a legitimate threat because there is and never was anyone in and around his weight class that had a legitimate chance at beating him. But he still chose the top ranked fighters and champions established and up and coming to fight and beat them to the point people question their ability and status. Until they fight another top guy and showed they were good but Floyd was just that much better.

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              #46
              Originally posted by The Weebler II
              Ortiz had only just moved up. Besides, the OP said legitimate threat, no one expected Ortiz to win. It's Victor Ortiz, the guy has a loss to Maidana and a draw with Peterson.
              This thread is clearly about standards. Floyd is held to the highest standard possible. Excellent. That's how it should be. But what standards do people hold other greats of this era to. Was Hatton a threat to Floyd. Of course he was. Were Victor Ortiz and Guerrero threats? Yes, especially at Floyd's age. Lets ask another question. Was Bradley a threat to Pacman? Absolutely. But it's easy to discredit that fight if held under the same standard as this thread (Weebler) suggests. Bradley did not have a title at 147 prior to the fight with Pacman and only had one fight at the weight (immediately moved back down to 140 after his first WW fight). He also hasn't looked good at 147 after the fight with Pac (using the hindsight logic of some of the posters on here) and he has no power at 140 or 147. Both Ortiz and Hatton were at least champions at WW. Guerrero was the best WW opponent available and Floyd's mandatory. Pac man just lost to JMM and JMM didn't want the fight plus he was contemplating retirement at the time. Bradley wasn't a feasible option. People did say Floyd should fight a legit threat at JMW instead of at WW so he signs to fight Canelo in his next fight. This fight should be at 154 but it is still a legit fight. Canelo is a real threat. People talk about best weights. Does Floyd get credit for winning fights when he's not at his best weight?

              I try to stay out of threads like this but I felt a post was necessary today. This thread topic should really be when has Floyd fought someone I wanted. That's what this really boils down to. You guys are upset because Floyd retired after the Hatton fight and that the Pac vs. Floyd fight didn't happen when it mattered most. We all know that fight should've happened. We all blame different people for it not happening. None of us knows the truth. As a fan of both Mayweather and Pacman, I have respect for what they've given to the sport.

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              • John Barron
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                #47
                Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                Hindsight is 20-20.

                Th last "threat" (he vast majority thinking he was ducking or would never fight) was Mosley by if course after the fight its considered not a threat.

                What are the chancs the same happens with Canelo? High. Very high.

                It's funny, people say Mayweather hasn't fought anyone but can anyone name someone who's beaten more Top 5 ranked opponents that he has?

                It's very seldom, if any.
                a thought provoking post. but good lucking bending anybody's opinion with it. as far as NSB is concerned mayweather is a coward, runner, chicken etc. cause it's easy and i guess "fun" for the mongoloids. this thread's been copy and pasted for years and by the same_****ing_people lol... you guys don't get sick of responding?
                Last edited by John Barron; 06-20-2013, 09:38 AM.

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                • shade darkar
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                  #48
                  mosley was the last time he fought the guy he was supposed to. people turn round and say he was shot now, but he was a legitimate threat to floyd, as the 2nd round proved.

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                  • The Big Dunn
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Public_Enemy
                    This thread is clearly about standards. Floyd is held to the highest standard possible. Excellent. That's how it should be. But what standards do people hold other greats of this era to. Was Hatton a threat to Floyd. Of course he was. Were Victor Ortiz and Guerrero threats? Yes, especially at Floyd's age. Lets ask another question. Was Bradley a threat to Pacman? Absolutely. But it's easy to discredit that fight if held under the same standard as this thread (Weebler) suggests. Bradley did not have a title at 147 prior to the fight with Pacman and only had one fight at the weight (immediately moved back down to 140 after his first WW fight). He also hasn't looked good at 147 after the fight with Pac (using the hindsight logic of some of the posters on here) and he has no power at 140 or 147. Both Ortiz and Hatton were at least champions at WW. Guerrero was the best WW opponent available and Floyd's mandatory. Pac man just lost to JMM and JMM didn't want the fight plus he was contemplating retirement at the time. Bradley wasn't a feasible option. People did say Floyd should fight a legit threat at JMW instead of at WW so he signs to fight Canelo in his next fight. This fight should be at 154 but it is still a legit fight. Canelo is a real threat. People talk about best weights. Does Floyd get credit for winning fights when he's not at his best weight?

                    I try to stay out of threads like this but I felt a post was necessary today. This thread topic should really be when has Floyd fought someone I wanted. That's what this really boils down to. You guys are upset because Floyd retired after the Hatton fight and that the Pac vs. Floyd fight didn't happen when it mattered most. We all know that fight should've happened. We all blame different people for it not happening. None of us knows the truth. As a fan of both Mayweather and Pacman, I have respect for what they've given to the sport.
                    good post.

                    weebler II is the classic example of a disgruntled NSB poster who uses the internet to vent his frustration because in his heart he knows floyd is just better than Hatton.

                    he's blamed the ref, the weight, anything he can grasp to try and reduce what happened. In his mind, Hatton was a destructive force that would beat floyd because he beat kosta and castillo, a guy floyd didn't fight and a guy floyd beat in a close fight some say he lost.

                    within 2 rounds he realized that his favorite fighter was not as good as floyd. that doesn't make floyd the best ever, but it made weebler II unable to continue to put Hatton on the pedestal he did. he just hasn't come to grips with it.

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                    • 4Corners
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                      #50
                      Yeah because when Floyd fights top ranked fighters are weight classes, it's him not fighting legit opposition, and cherry picking. But when everyone else fights the same guys or the same type of fights, they're real good or good wins. Gotta love boxing.

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