How many of you think that Angulo quit

[D-MiZe]

Good post. When fans understand this, that tells me that the fan understands what fighters go through.

"Yo I saw you fall lol...Nah, I got tripped...yeah but you still fell".

So wait, are you trying to say that someone who gets tripped doesn't fall?

By the way, the pedanticism lies on your part.

[Cuauhtémoc1520]

I just re-watched the ending and after Lara lands the 2 1-2s, Angulo comes up from a crouching position, turns his back and walks away. Walking straight to the ropes and doesn't protest once, doesn't even acknowledge the referee and looks quite disheartened. He didn't want to continue.

If Angulo was fouled, he would've acted appropriately. Again, I ain't saying he pulled a 'No Mas!', quitting to prevent further damage is understandable, especially in a region such as your face.

He quit, regardless of how you look at it. Unless a verb can be provided to explain what he did.

Your missing the point. First off all, not continuing because your face is shattered is not quitting....lol

When you suffer an injury that won't allow you to continue, that's just not being able to continue. What Victor Ortiz did was quit, what Roberto Duran did was quit. What Angulo did was just not be able to continue because he had a serious injury.

All I'm saying is the ref should at least taken the time to check to see if it was a foul, possibly a poke in the eye. Not taking credit away from Lara, he fought a brave fight as well but calling Angulo a quitter is diminishing what he did.

[Frank Ducketts]

So wait, are you trying to say that someone who gets tripped doesn't fall?

By the way, the pedanticism lies on your part.

Pedanticism, lmao! I oughta...

[Frank Ducketts]

I'd rather be called pontificating, lmao!

[D-MiZe]

Quitting is the act of leaving, stopping, abandoning something, not continuing.

I know exactly what you're saying Cua, Ortiz quit against Maidana because he couldn't handle the heat. Angulo lives in the heat, he took punches to the face before he could even walk, the first thing he ate was a jab.

I think it was the manner in which Angulo walked away after Lara landed the combo that made the referee wave it off straight away. Normally, you'd see the opponent recoiling, maybe making a noise, with their glove in a certain area where they'd been fouled.

All I'm saying is he quit, there isn't another verb that describes what he did. I just hate the 'oh no, he didn't quit', 'he...[insert a sentence that describes the meaning of quit]'.

Now I'm being a pedantic ****.

[CubanGuyNYC]

Actually, in the case of a foul, you see many fighters turn away. For example, when a fighter gets hit low.

Now for me, I don't think Angulo quit because his eye and face were shattered. I do think that the ref should have at least taken a look at Angulo before stopping the fight and asked why he turned away in case it was a foul.

Angulo is one tough SOB, the beating he took for 10 rounds was amazing. He kept coming forward and landed some big shots. It was a great fight and credit to both guys for putting on a great show.

I just think at least the ref should have seen what was wrong instead of just stopping the fight in case of a thumb or something else.

I was a little surprised at how fast the ref stopped the fight after Angulo turned his back. I would've expected him to ask Alfredo what was wrong, or instruct him to keep fighting. The stoppage seemed a little quick, but it was justified. You're just not supposed to turn your back on your opponent and walk away like that. All professional fighters know this.

It was a battle, with both men taking punishment. Angulo's left eye was looking bad. The swelling was nasty. When Alfredo was being examined by the ringside doctor, he flinched on one occasion as the doc softly touched the swelling. That wasn't the reaction of a guy that's just been thumbed. Something happened to Angulo's eye, something so painful and concerning that it forced a warrior like "Perro" to stop fighting.

It was a disappointing ending to a great fight, but this is the ultimate contact sport. Shit happens all the time: broken bones, torn ligaments, etc. Sometimes it's just too much and forces an athlete to throw in the towel, no matter how great his heart. No shame in that.

[Frank Ducketts]

Quitting is the act of leaving, stopping, abandoning something, not continuing.

I know exactly what you're saying Cua, Ortiz quit against Maidana because he couldn't handle the heat. Angulo lives in the heat, he took punches to the face before he could even walk, the first thing he ate was a jab.

I think it was the manner in which Angulo walked away after Lara landed the combo that made the referee wave it off straight away. Normally, you'd see the opponent recoiling, maybe making a noise, with their glove in a certain area where they'd been fouled.

All I'm saying is he quit, there isn't another verb that describes what he did. I just hate the 'oh no, he didn't quit', 'he...[insert a sentence that describes the meaning of quit]'.

Now I'm being a pedantic ****.

Back in the old days they used another word instead of quit because they understood what the fighter went through when they couldn't continue. You know the word, (ask Reed) but you're being pedantic, and using pedanticism to favor the "no point" that you have.

But you're right. That is the exact meaning of the word quit, lmao!

Question: How does that definition of the word "quit" apply to a boxer who takes punches for a living? Nevermind, because you have no answer.

[Frank Ducketts]

I was a little surprised at how fast the ref stopped the fight after Angulo turned his back. I would've expected him to ask Alfredo what was wrong, or instruct him to keep fighting. The stoppage seemed a little quick, but it was justified. You're just not supposed to turn your back on your opponent and walk away like that. All professional fighters know this.

It was a battle, with both men taking punishment. Angulo's left eye was looking bad. The swelling was nasty. When Alfredo was being examined by the ringside doctor, he flinched on one occasion as the doc softly touched the swelling. That wasn't the reaction of a guy that's just been thumbed. Something happened to Angulo's eye, something so painful and concerning that it forced a warrior like "Perro" to stop fighting.

It was a disappointing ending to a great fight, but this is the ultimate contact sport. Shit happens all the time: broken bones, torn ligaments, etc. Sometimes it's just too much and forces an athlete to throw in the towel, no matter how great his heart. No shame in that.

Good post. In three paragraphs the word "quit" was not used by this poster either.

[pistol whip]

No, Peret didn't have a choice. Angulo & Peterson did, thus why they quit and you cannot say anything to the contrary. Angulo could've continued, he decided not to.

Are you ***ing ******ed? Do you know who Adrian peterson is? He's a running back for the Minnisota Vikings who tore his ACL last season you ***ing Moron!

[Cuauhtémoc1520]

Quitting is the act of leaving, stopping, abandoning something, not continuing.

I know exactly what you're saying Cua, Ortiz quit against Maidana because he couldn't handle the heat. Angulo lives in the heat, he took punches to the face before he could even walk, the first thing he ate was a jab.

I think it was the manner in which Angulo walked away after Lara landed the combo that made the referee wave it off straight away. Normally, you'd see the opponent recoiling, maybe making a noise, with their glove in a certain area where they'd been fouled.

All I'm saying is he quit, there isn't another verb that describes what he did. I just hate the 'oh no, he didn't quit', 'he...[insert a sentence that describes the meaning of quit]'.

Now I'm being a pedantic ****.

Ok, is what he did technically quitting..sure. You and I both know what that word means and what boxing fans take it as. Let's use the word in the proper context and he didn't take a knee, didn't say no mas, and didn't just refuse to fight. He was seriously injured, not hurt...injured.

I was a little surprised at how fast the ref stopped the fight after Angulo turned his back. I would've expected him to ask Alfredo what was wrong, or instruct him to keep fighting. The stoppage seemed a little quick, but it was justified. You're just not supposed to turn your back on your opponent and walk away like that. All professional fighters know this.

It was a battle, with both men taking punishment. Angulo's left eye was looking bad. The swelling was nasty. When Alfredo was being examined by the ringside doctor, he flinched on one occasion as the doc softly touched the swelling. That wasn't the reaction of a guy that's just been thumbed. Something happened to Angulo's eye, something so painful and concerning that it forced a warrior like "Perro" to stop fighting.

It was a disappointing ending to a great fight, but this is the ultimate contact sport. Shit happens all the time: broken bones, torn ligaments, etc. Sometimes it's just too much and forces an athlete to throw in the towel, no matter how great his heart. No shame in that.

I agree, great post and the reason you are one of the few guys I bother to talk to in this place full of children and trolls. After the fight, I said how great both Lara and Angulo fought. Two different styles and I honestly don't know what would have happened if they would have went the full 12.

Props to Lara though, he took some huge shots and fought through them. It's a shame Angulo was injured and I think this is it for him, his career might be done. In my experience, when a fighter suffers that broken orbital bone, it's over for him because it never stops swelling and re-breaks often.