Comments Thread For: Groves: I Apologize To Froch, But He's in My Way!

[Porter's Dad]

Froch should take call Groves' and DeGale's bluffs and just fight them, he'd whoop them both right now. They'd be fairly big events, good paydays, and both Groves and DeGale would get taught a lesson by a world class fighter. Make it happen


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[MeiXiang]

Again, I don't find anything wrong with what Groves is doing. He's a genuine World Title Contended and he's getting his name up there in recognition. Groves sparred with the best - Kessler - and it was not a opportunity to be missed. Froch never offered Groves any sparring but Kessler did, what's wrong with that? He wants the experience and you can't pass that just because the person you're sparring with is foreign.

Similarly, he's doing the right things and calling out the big guys in the division because he's on the brim of a world title - a lot more than any other Super Middleweight out there. Why are a lot of guys angry - he speaks the truth and even Groves has said that he means no disrespect to Froch.

[Clegg]

I don't know that Froch is really 'getting upset' at being called out. Maybe there's an interview that passed me by on that one. He's said that if they become his mandatory he will face them, which is something Calzaghe was unwilling to do.

Another difference is that Groves has had more chances to prove himself. Froch wanted any big fights he could get, whereas Groves could've fought better people by now but has chosen not to. Froch finally got a chance arranged against Denis Inkin but Inkin pulled out not long before, delaying Froch's career by another 6 months. Whereas with Groves, he had big fights lined up and it was him that pulled out. He pulled out of facing Steiglitz and he pulled out of facing Anderson 3 times. Anderson is no world beater but it would've been worth more than most of the people he's faced since the DeGale win.

People are trying their best to act as if Froch has to face Groves or else he's a hypocrite. But Froch was willing to face anyone to get to Calzaghe, whereas Groves seems unwilling to earn a shot.

The division is pretty good right now, it's not too much to ask that Groves faces someone in the top 10. It seems that he signed with Hearn because he knew it'd allow him to get a Froch fight eventually and also allow him to face easy opposition until then.

[black.ink]

Froch wanted Calzaghe post-Lacy, in a time where Joe chose to fight Bika and Manfredo instead although Froch was ranked higher. Joe then fought Kessler which was the best 2 at 168 going at it, then vacated for the paydays at 175 which i respect.

Froch was ducked by Inkin during this time, which would have given the chance for him to fight for a title. He fought ranked contenders in Magee and Tatevosyan. Although unproven at World level, how fighting Bika and Manfredo over Froch was better options i'm not sure.

Groves and Degale haven't fought a top 10 fighter between them. Froch has stated a few times he would face either of them, after they fight someone worth a damn.

When Froch is after the Kessler and Ward's over the Groves and Degales, it's hard to argue.

Froch wanted Calzaghe, when Joe was fighting the Bika's and Manfredo's.

[IronDanHamza]

Here's what I don't understand, Groves is in the Top 5 accross most of the sanctioning bodies I believe, #2 with WBA I think he said and amongst the top in all of them.

How has that happened? Considering he's never beaten a Top 10 fighter at 168?

These sanctioning bodies rankings are beyond a joke.

[Funky_Monk]

Froch wanted Calzaghe post-Lacy, in a time where Joe chose to fight Bika and Manfredo instead although Froch was ranked higher. Joe then fought Kessler which was the best 2 at 168 going at it, then vacated for the paydays at 175 which i respect.

Froch was ducked by Inkin during this time, which would have given the chance for him to fight for a title. He fought ranked contenders in Magee and Tatevosyan. Although unproven at World level, how fighting Bika and Manfredo over Froch was better options i'm not sure.

Groves and Degale haven't fought a top 10 fighter between them. Froch has stated a few times he would face either of them, after they fight someone worth a damn.

When Froch is after the Kessler and Ward's over the Groves and Degales, it's hard to argue.

Froch wanted Calzaghe, when Joe was fighting the Bika's and Manfredo's.

I think the Manfredo fight was to get a bit more US coverage...

[Wenger Is God]

Froch wanted Calzaghe post-Lacy, in a time where Joe chose to fight Bika and Manfredo instead although Froch was ranked higher. Joe then fought Kessler which was the best 2 at 168 going at it, then vacated for the paydays at 175 which i respect.

Froch was ducked by Inkin during this time, which would have given the chance for him to fight for a title. He fought ranked contenders in Magee and Tatevosyan. Although unproven at World level, how fighting Bika and Manfredo over Froch was better options i'm not sure.

Groves and Degale haven't fought a top 10 fighter between them. Froch has stated a few times he would face either of them, after they fight someone worth a damn.

When Froch is after the Kessler and Ward's over the Groves and Degales, it's hard to argue.

Froch wanted Calzaghe, when Joe was fighting the Bika's and Manfredo's.

I don't know about Manfredo but Bika was almost certainly ranked higher than Froch at the time. May have even been a mandatory if Im not mistaken. Manfredo was a fight to expose Calzaghe to the American audience which Froch wouldn't do.

[Anderson Silva]

Groves is just a total copy of David Hayes style..

[D-MiZe]

Here's what I don't understand, Groves is in the Top 5 accross most of the sanctioning bodies I believe, #2 with WBA I think he said and amongst the top in all of them.

How has that happened? Considering he's never beaten a Top 10 fighter at 168?

These sanctioning bodies rankings are beyond a joke.

Divisional rankings from the sanctioning bodies are good indicators of who's spent the most money on ****** trinkets. I'm sure Warren's had Groves defending the WBO silver Timbuktu belt for a ranking.

EDIT: Just checked BoxRec, hadn't fought for any titles other than Commonwealth & British under Warren. How he has such a good rating is a mystery...

[MeiXiang]

Groves is just a total copy of David Hayes style..

Same trainers Sherlock.