Sorry but Carl Froch is not a top fighter. He is a good fighter but not a top fighter. He is just athletic enough to beat B level fighters and look good but he cannot stand up against an elite fighter.
Ring Magazine still not put froch on the P4P list
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No... Mares is fine. Canelo and Broner tho? Bull*****.Originally posted by DannYankee09First slap was Having Broner and Mares there but Not Rigondeaux and we took it now they're just pissing on us without even trying to make it seem like rain.
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Ok if these guys are no good why is Ward rated so high? If all he's doing is beating up medicore guys?
The Ring P4P is a JOKE. Broner!? Wtf?Comment
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When has Mayweather faced the no.2 of the division? Recently, that is.
How is Canelo the champion without facing Mayweather, the no.1 of 154?
Garcia never beat the guy who beat Khan. RING decided to leave Peterson out.
You also forgot Hernandez - the belt was made available for a rematch of the fight he just won.
Rigo, Martinez, Ward, Dawson and Wlad, I agree with.
The RING belt has lost its lustre, it has pursued a policy of giving belts out due to technicalities. Some of the RING belt holders are NOT legitimate lineal champions. The belt practically recognises a decent fight, much the same as the WBC Diamond belt.Comment
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People still care about The Ring after it's clear alliance with GBP fighters?
It's all about these guys for me
http://www.tbrb.org/p4p/
1 Floyd Mayweather USA 44-0-0 (26) Welterweight
2 Andre Ward * USA 26-0-0 (14) Super Middleweight
3 Juan Manuel Marquez MEX 55-6-1 (40) Welterweight
4 Sergio Martinez * ARG 51-2-2 (28) Middleweight
5 Manny Pacquiao PHI 54-5-2 (38) Welterweight
6 Carl Froch ENG 30-2-0 (22) Super Middleweight
7 Wladimir Klitschko UKR 60-3-0 (51) Heavyweight
8 Abner Mares MEX 26-0-1 (14) Junior Featherweight
9 Guillermo Rigondeaux * CUB 12-0-0 (8) Junior Featherweight
10 Nonito Donaire PHI 31-2-0 (20) Junior Featherweight
Notice no Adrian Broner, because these guys know the score and are not pushed into a double agenda by GBP/OscarComment
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That's a great list. Some people may have grips with Froch/Wlad, but you know, it is a debate over dominance over much lesser opposition, or a great run over decent opposition, there's no right or wrong. There are little things, such as i'd personally have Ward over Mayweather, but really I can happily live with it the way it is. It's a solid listPeople still care about The Ring after it's clear alliance with GBP fighters?
It's all about these guys for me
http://www.tbrb.org/p4p/
1 Floyd Mayweather USA 44-0-0 (26) Welterweight
2 Andre Ward * USA 26-0-0 (14) Super Middleweight
3 Juan Manuel Marquez MEX 55-6-1 (40) Welterweight
4 Sergio Martinez * ARG 51-2-2 (28) Middleweight
5 Manny Pacquiao PHI 54-5-2 (38) Welterweight
6 Carl Froch ENG 30-2-0 (22) Super Middleweight
7 Wladimir Klitschko UKR 60-3-0 (51) Heavyweight
8 Abner Mares MEX 26-0-1 (14) Junior Featherweight
9 Guillermo Rigondeaux * CUB 12-0-0 (8) Junior Featherweight
10 Nonito Donaire PHI 31-2-0 (20) Junior Featherweight
Notice no Adrian Broner, because these guys know the score and are not pushed into a double agenda by GBP/OscarComment
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Agree, these guys put together much better lists :ANYWORD:People still care about The Ring after it's clear alliance with GBP fighters?
It's all about these guys for me
http://www.tbrb.org/p4p/
1 Floyd Mayweather USA 44-0-0 (26) Welterweight
2 Andre Ward * USA 26-0-0 (14) Super Middleweight
3 Juan Manuel Marquez MEX 55-6-1 (40) Welterweight
4 Sergio Martinez * ARG 51-2-2 (28) Middleweight
5 Manny Pacquiao PHI 54-5-2 (38) Welterweight
6 Carl Froch ENG 30-2-0 (22) Super Middleweight
7 Wladimir Klitschko UKR 60-3-0 (51) Heavyweight
8 Abner Mares MEX 26-0-1 (14) Junior Featherweight
9 Guillermo Rigondeaux * CUB 12-0-0 (8) Junior Featherweight
10 Nonito Donaire PHI 31-2-0 (20) Junior Featherweight
Notice no Adrian Broner, because these guys know the score and are not pushed into a double agenda by GBP/OscarComment
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I don't see any one on that list, that Froch would beat if he weighed the same as them. Not even Bradley, who as well imo do not belong thereComment
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Yup. Those are the ones. Cliff who writes for bscene works with them too.Originally posted by chavPeople still care about The Ring after it's clear alliance with GBP fighters?
It's all about these guys for me
http://www.tbrb.org/p4p/
1 Floyd Mayweather USA 44-0-0 (26) Welterweight
2 Andre Ward * USA 26-0-0 (14) Super Middleweight
3 Juan Manuel Marquez MEX 55-6-1 (40) Welterweight
4 Sergio Martinez * ARG 51-2-2 (28) Middleweight
5 Manny Pacquiao PHI 54-5-2 (38) Welterweight
6 Carl Froch ENG 30-2-0 (22) Super Middleweight
7 Wladimir Klitschko UKR 60-3-0 (51) Heavyweight
8 Abner Mares MEX 26-0-1 (14) Junior Featherweight
9 Guillermo Rigondeaux * CUB 12-0-0 (8) Junior Featherweight
10 Nonito Donaire PHI 31-2-0 (20) Junior Featherweight
Notice no Adrian Broner, because these guys know the score and are not pushed into a double agenda by GBP/Oscar
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