which is the more impressive feat:by Pacquiao or Mayweather jr?

[bravestone]

The Barrerra and Marquez wins are better than Hatton and Corrales wins even. Morales and Barrera were not prime though.

[Jam Jars]

The Barrerra and Marquez wins are better than Hatton and Corrales wins even. Morales and Barrera were not prime though.

The JMM "wins" are debatable to even be wins.

[bravestone]

The JMM "wins" are debatable to even be wins.

I thought Manny beat Marquez in the 2nd fight.

[Zano-24]

Morales and Barrera were not in their primes though. Even in Manny's first fight with Morales he wasn't in his prime. He just hand enough to pull off another great win. Its still better then Floyd win over Hatton. Corrales and Castillo and can argued though. His wins over Marquez can't really be considered wins because most people felt Manny lost all 4 of those fights.

[T18Z]

Morales and Barrera were not in their primes though. Even in Manny's first fight with Morales he wasn't in his prime. He just hand enough to pull off another great win. Its still better then Floyd win over Hatton. Corrales and Castillo and can argued though. His wins over Marquez can't really be considered wins because most people felt Manny lost all 4 of those fights.

Most people don't think Marquez won all 4, I'm willing to bet hardly anyone does, have you seen the unofficial scorecards by observers?

His wins can and are counted over Marquez, why can't you deal with that? You aren't fooling anyone by saying *most people believe this* because you got no proof whatsoever!

Would you like a link to all of there fights and how external sources scored them?

[flat1985]

Morales lost to Raheem before Pac beat him twice. Manny had a draw and a close win (which the majority thought he lost) to JMM and beat Barerra twice.

I would say floyd beating 2 these two undefeated fighters is more impressive given when Manny fought Morales and the fact he didn't beat JMM twice.

So what if they were undefeated lol they are not better wins then Pac's. Morales was not prime but was still good Barrera was prime and so was Jmm. Barrera's resume is better then Corrales and Hatton combined.

[The Big Dunn]

So what if they were undefeated lol they are not better wins then Pac's. Morales was not prime but was still good Barrera was prime and so was Jmm. Barrera's resume is better then Corrales and Hatton combined.

How can you rate beating Morales that high when he lost to zahir raheem?

JMM had some great wins as did Barrera. they also had losses-although losing to junior jones isnt in anyway bad.

Name value vs stature at time of fight.

[prinzemanspopa]

Morales was on the decline and past his best, but his performance in the rematch with Pacquiao was enough to show he was still capable of competing at a world class level. Raheem was a horrible stylistic matchup and one that he never would have been able to overcome at any point in his career.

[The Big Dunn]

Morales was on the decline and past his best, but his performance in the rematch with Pacquiao was enough to show he was still capable of competing at a world class level. Raheem was a horrible stylistic matchup and one that he never would have been able to overcome at any point in his career.

if you lose to zahir raheem-and by a wide margin-then you are no longer a world class fighter.

[The Big Dunn]

no barrera fought morales for the third time like a year or two after he lost to pac...there is no question that pac fought barrera at the best point in his career. barrera coming off a win against hamed, he beat morales in their rematch, beat tapia, was ranked p4p#3 and was the ring champ at featherweight...on top of all of this pac moved up to 126 for like the second time in his career to fight barrera in houston texas in front of a largely barrera crowd.

and i also though pac beat marquez in their first fight by 1 point (marquez won 7 rounds imo, but because of the 3 knockdowns pac wins it by 1 point) and by 1 point in their second...thing is pac was supposed to get the win in their first fight by 1 point but one of the judges scored the first round 10-7 instead of 10-6...and first fight was before pac joined with top rank so there's no "oh he had arum" excuse...

you sure about the hamed fight? wasn't it 2 1/2 years before manny v MAB?