Comments Thread For: Fighting Words: Should Floyd Face the Best of 154, 160?

[Supreme75]

Wow. While I believe that Mayweather would win the fight, I do have some interest in seeing it. Just not enough to start hating on Mayweather if he chooses not to pursue it. On the other hand, people like you are going to hate regardless. I see why Mayweather couldn't care less about what you think.

Who should he fight then?? Alexander? Khan? Garcia? Nobody wants to see that s**t.

If we all agree that anyone at 40&47 would be over matched, why not push for a competitive fight? I seriously don't understand the problem.

[HeroBando]

Wow. While I believe that Mayweather would win the fight, I do have some interest in seeing it. Just not enough to start hating on Mayweather if he chooses not to pursue it. On the other hand, people like you are going to hate regardless. I see why Mayweather couldn't care less about what you think.

And he'll conveniently take the path of least resistance, just to spite the haters

[Rome-By-Ko]

I don't know about 160lb,that might be a bit much for Mayweather's small frame..But 154lb definitely he should fight the best..

[Thad.Castle]

160? Absolutely not

154? Absolutely, so as long as he holds a title there and is ranked #1

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[Deeznuts]

Larry X writes articles for boxingscene now?

[Light_Speed]

There could be plenty of reasons for the fight not to happen. Money issues aside, Mayweather simply may not feel as if the risk is worth the reward. I understand that you personally want to see it(caught up in the hype, Canelo just got his 1st good win), but you should concede that that's a legit position. If I were an advisor to Mayweather, I wouldn't suggest taking the fight unless it was clearly more lucrative than any other fight that he could make. Mayweather clearly isn't at his best at 54 because he's tiny at 54, Canelo is huge at 54, and Mayweather is 36 while Canelo is 22. At this point, I'm cool with Mayweather fighting whoever he wants because he has a track record of picking guys who are legit opponents. He's only really had 1 "competitive" fight in his career, so while I hope that every fight is competitive I'm realistic when it comes to Mayweather. If he were to fight Canelo in September I wouldn't count on that fight being that "competitive". I see Mayweather giving the kid a boxing lesson en route to yet another "boring" decision.

It has nothing to do with hype, Canelo established himself as an elite fighter in his weightclass, that's not hype that's reality.

I actually don't think it's a legit position, this is the most lucrative opponent (not named Pacquiao) Floyd can get in the ring with at 154 and below, the guy fights in a weightclass where Floyd fought twice. If Floyd came out and said after the Cotto fight "I won't fight at this weight anymore because I don't feel good there" then I would understand, but he didn't.

You're cool with Floyd fighting whoever he wants because of his track record? Forget the track record, he's an elite fighter who's considered by most to be the #1 P4P, don't you wanna see the guy challenge himself? Regardless of what he's done before, he's still fighting, he still claims to be the best and he still charges people to watch him fight. As long as he does all this, I want to see him get in the ring with the toughest opponent possible.

I don't think a Canelo fight would be extremely competitive but I think it would be more competitive than nearly any other matchup for Floyd below 160. Just because Floyd is the best that means he can fight anybody since he'd be favored against most? That's a ****ed up mentality. Might as well just watch him spar and hit the bag then.

[PunchyPotorff]

I wouldn't go as far as to call him the greatest, that doesn't mean I'd argue with Malignaggi and the Garcia family in believing that he is. You forget that Mayweather put most of his work at SFW, his best win is arguably JLC at LW, I doubt his work north of those divisions will ever exceed his accomplishments at 130, and that's where he'll most likely be remembered for. So when you made the SRL comment, it was hateful, spin it however you want but it was.

Claims of calling himself the greatest ever? If Kermit Cintron called himself the greatest ever I wouldn't care, same goes for Ortiz, Mayweather is within his right to believe that. That's no more blasphemous than Ward saying he's programmed to believe that he can beat a Klitchscko. Must really suck to have comments like that bother you.

Get one thing straight, no one bothers me with an ignorant comment... but if I read one of them, I will lay out the reality of the issue. Doesn't mean I'm a hater, no matter what you or anyone else says. The whole issue I bring up is, Floydie has to beat the very best before he can claim GOAT. And he hasn't done that, and with 5 fights left, he will never do that. But he'll tell you and anyone who will listen over and over about how he's the GOAT. And I'm just pointing out how that's as much b.s. as the many gaudy displays of wealth we saw on the latest All Access. Beat the best, be humble, don't act like a thug, THEN you get to be in the running for GOAT. Otherwise, don't expect me to bow down to anyone's thinking that you are. It's that simple.

[straightleft]

Self admitted Floyd he is a cherry picker and he will never fight an opponent has a chance of beating him. Floyd faked his retirement to avoid Oscar rematch, prime younger Cotto, prime younger Mosley and prime younger Margarito and William. He moved up to 154 to avoid Pac at 147, after Pac lost he moved down to 147 again to duck Canelo and Martinez.

[mrc2068]

Can people like Straightleft stop with the he ducked a young Cotto. When they were both with TopRank... it was Arum who kept saying Cotto was too green for that fight ( his exact words)... go back and look at interviews. Once Mayweather left Arum, the fight could never happen as long as Cotto was still with Arum.

[Goldie]

actually I'm a Marquez fan and always been neutral between floyd and pacman. the manny p that beat cotto and hatton would of been a 50-50 fight for floyd I'm not taking away from Floyd's skills just saying his opponent selection for the most part sucks. Yes he looked amazing last Saturday but once again he fought Robert Guerrero. Beating Robert Guerrero doesn't make u great. I do think floyd would beat canelo and Martinez. But the hate is well deserved cause the fights the majority of us fight freeks wanna see floyd won't give them to us.that why a guy like abner mares is praised because he's willing to fight anybody he'll move up a division down a division he wants to give the fans exciting fights.

Mayweather-Pacquiao was never 50-50. Pacquiao was always a clear underdog to Mayweather even before Marquez KO'ed him. Criticism is legit, hate isn't. You can criticize Mayweather and his opponent selection without being a hater. A lot of you people are haters. The disrespect that some of you show Mayweather is shameful. Floyd's greatness isn't based on beating Guerrero, it's based on the totality of his 44 pro fights. Floyd is the biggest draw in boxing so that "he doesn't fight anyone that the majority of fans want to see" BS doesn't really fly. That's just an excuse used to try and justify hate. That Abner Mares is completely invalid and it exposes your ignorance. Mares isn't fighting for the fans, he's fighting for money. Stop being so naive. Mares doesn't give a damn about you fans either, he's just not in the position that Mayweather is in. Mares isn't chasing respect, he's chasing money. Wise up.

Who should he fight then?? Alexander? Khan? Garcia? Nobody wants to see that s**t.

If we all agree that anyone at 40&47 would be over matched, why not push for a competitive fight? I seriously don't understand the problem.

I don't know who he should fight. I'm not saying that he shouldn't fight Canelo. I'm saying that I understand why he might not. I'm saying that hating isn't justified if he doesn't.

And he'll conveniently take the path of least resistance, just to spite the haters

You really need to get over yourself. I don't think that Mayweather does things in spite of people like you. I think that he does things not caring about people like you.

It has nothing to do with hype, Canelo established himself as an elite fighter in his weightclass, that's not hype that's reality.

He has 1 good win in his weight class, that's also reality.

I actually don't think it's a legit position, this is the most lucrative opponent (not named Pacquiao) Floyd can get in the ring with at 154 and below, the guy fights in a weightclass where Floyd fought twice. If Floyd came out and said after the Cotto fight "I won't fight at this weight anymore because I don't feel good there" then I would understand, but he didn't.

Well you're being irrational. Floyd shouldn't have to tell you something that should dawn on you using common sense. If Mayweather doesn't seriously pursue the Canelo fight(assuming that the money isn't the roadblock) then common sense should tell you that the size difference is a major factor. Mayweather shouldn't have to spell that out for you.

You're cool with Floyd fighting whoever he wants because of his track record? Forget the track record, he's an elite fighter who's considered by most to be the #1 P4P, don't you wanna see the guy challenge himself? Regardless of what he's done before, he's still fighting, he still claims to be the best and he still charges people to watch him fight. As long as he does all this, I want to see him get in the ring with the toughest opponent possible.

I have seen Mayweather challenge himself. His last fight was against an elite WW(Mayweather's best division) after taking a year off including 2 months in jail. To me that was a challenge. Boxing is business homie. I understand that you want the best possible matchups when you want them but you don't always get that in pro prize fighting. If you haven't came to grips with that by now then you never will and you'll continue to be disappointed. Politics are always involved in which fights do or don't get made. That's just something that you have to deal with.

I don't think a Canelo fight would be extremely competitive but I think it would be more competitive than nearly any other matchup for Floyd below 160. Just because Floyd is the best that means he can fight anybody since he'd be favored against most? That's a ****ed up mentality. Might as well just watch him spar and hit the bag then.

Floyd is a grown man, that means that he gets to do whatever he wants to do. It's not up to me to grant him that right. We as fans can either agree or not agree. If you don't think that his fights are worth watching, then don't watch. It's pretty simple. I don't think that fighters like Guerrero are just "anybody", Floyd just makes elite guys look that way. I personally enjoyed the fight on 5/4. Look, I'm not saying that Floyd is above criticism. There's nothing wrong with cricizing him if he doesn't take the Canelo fight. Criticism and hate are 2 different things though. You can criticize while acknowledging the counter perspective. That's my only point here. I see hate here, not legitimate criticism. Canelo is thought to be a competitive fight because he has a distinct size, power, and age advantage. I see no reason to hate Mayweather if he chooses to give an opponent those advantages at age 36 for a minimal reward(relatively speaking).