Leonard and Duran speak on Mayweather

[radioraheem]

No. He's not. The jury is still out on him. If they kept compubox stats like they do now, it wouldn't even be close as to who got hit less. Floyd is susceptible to a jab and body punches. That is a fact. What is also a fact is that his level of opposition and their skill-set is why the jury is still out. Now had he fought Martinez at 154lb before Chavez Jr. ruined him, if he had fought Manny instead of make the biggest duck in history, and if he fights Canelo at 154lb like he did Cotto, and his numbers are the same, and he's able to make those fighters look silly, then and only then would I call him a "master". If a shop worn Cotto ****** him up and a washed up Oscar was able to land body shots and a consistent jab on him, what would those fighters do? Miss all night? Cotto would have gotten embarrassed against Whitaker. The Ghost wouldn't have hit him with ANYTHING.

Again, Pernell Whitaker took his fair share of punches by opponents. Roger Mayweather, despite taking damage and being knocked down himself, STILL was able to hit and knockdown Pernell. Roger Mayweather was a good fighter, but he didn't have the fame and reputation that guys like De La Hoya and Miguel Cotto had. And this is just Roger Mayweather being used as an example, because there are others.

Every fighter is susceptible to getting hit, no matter how great defensively they are. Pernell got hit hard at times in his fights. And Floyd has been rocked hard at times in his fights too. Keep in mind, Floyd is still showcasing defensive mastery at 36 and after being inactive in the ring for a year.

[jimboinbigd]

I'm 45, and remember watching and becoming a fan of Leonard at the '76 Olympics and watching his entire career, including the fights against Duran, Hearns, Hagler, etc...and imo, Floyd is better than all of those guys.

Leonard's boxing ability made Duran quit. Floyd would have not only outboxed him, but counterpunched him to death. Floyd's D and conditioning would have given him the nod against Leonard. Hearns vs. Floyd would have been interesting until Floyd started timing him and potshotting him and taking him to the late rounds and started toying with him due to conditioning. Hearns might have stood a chance with Mayweather in a 12 rd fight, but not 15 rds.

Mayweather would have outskilled Hagler also.

[Daddy T]

unless you re determined to look like a nuthugger with no sense you need to quit this business of even entertaining the idea of mayweather beating duran/leonard/hearns ... he's at about benitez level ... and that is actually a big compliment though nuthuggers will no doubt think other wise

[Unknown Champ]

I'm 45, and remember watching and becoming a fan of Leonard at the '76 Olympics and watching his entire career, including the fights against Duran, Hearns, Hagler, etc...and imo, Floyd is better than all of those guys.

Leonard's boxing ability made Duran quit. Floyd would have not only outboxed him, but counterpunched him to death. Floyd's D and conditioning would have given him the nod against Leonard. Hearns vs. Floyd would have been interesting until Floyd started timing him and potshotting him and taking him to the late rounds and started toying with him due to conditioning. Hearns might have stood a chance with Mayweather in a 12 rd fight, but not 15 rds.

Mayweather would have outskilled Hagler also.

Damn, can't argue w an OG's perspective.

[AntonTheMeh]

i love roberto, but why did he add in barkley? he was a damn middleweight.

[bray26]

Who do you think would've been the smarter fighter though? Floyd or Hearns?

Go back and watch some Hearns fights! It don't matter how smart Floyd is, he gets destroyed! Matter of fact he doesn't even take the fight! Floyd had nothing to stop Hearns from coming and Hearns had dynamite in his hands. 6ft 1 with a heavy wieght reach, it's a no contest!

[Daddy T]

I'm 45, and remember watching and becoming a fan of Leonard at the '76 Olympics and watching his entire career, including the fights against Duran, Hearns, Hagler, etc...and imo, Floyd is better than all of those guys.

Leonard's boxing ability made Duran quit. Floyd would have not only outboxed him, but counterpunched him to death. Floyd's D and conditioning would have given him the nod against Leonard. Hearns vs. Floyd would have been interesting until Floyd started timing him and potshotting him and taking him to the late rounds and started toying with him due to conditioning. Hearns might have stood a chance with Mayweather in a 12 rd fight, but not 15 rds.

Mayweather would have outskilled Hagler also.

lol what a load of BS

[AntonTheMeh]

I'm 45, and remember watching and becoming a fan of Leonard at the '76 Olympics and watching his entire career, including the fights against Duran, Hearns, Hagler, etc...and imo, Floyd is better than all of those guys.

Leonard's boxing ability made Duran quit. Floyd would have not only outboxed him, but counterpunched him to death. Floyd's D and conditioning would have given him the nod against Leonard. Hearns vs. Floyd would have been interesting until Floyd started timing him and potshotting him and taking him to the late rounds and started toying with him due to conditioning. Hearns might have stood a chance with Mayweather in a 12 rd fight, but not 15 rds.

Mayweather would have outskilled Hagler also.

floyd's never fought a 15 rounder in his career, but he'd beat a guy in a 15 round fight who has? i can't see anyway that he beats hearns.

last i recall duran and leonard fought more than that one time he quit. by that same token anyone could be of the opinion that cotto gave floyd his toughest fight since forever so duran would have busted his ass cause he was so much better at everything that cotto does best.

i don't think he would have lasted against hagler in a 15 rounder.

i say this as a person who believes that floyd is the most talented boxer that ever walked the face of the earth, but he's a guy that started at super featherweight; at some point not only does the weight catch up to you, but the gap in ability closes when you start talking about atg's like leonard hearns and duran.


these match ups are nowhere near as cut and dry as people on either side of these arguments want to believe.

[bray26]

I'm 45, and remember watching and becoming a fan of Leonard at the '76 Olympics and watching his entire career, including the fights against Duran, Hearns, Hagler, etc...and imo, Floyd is better than all of those guys.

Leonard's boxing ability made Duran quit. Floyd would have not only outboxed him, but counterpunched him to death. Floyd's D and conditioning would have given him the nod against Leonard. Hearns vs. Floyd would have been interesting until Floyd started timing him and potshotting him and taking him to the late rounds and started toying with him due to conditioning. Hearns might have stood a chance with Mayweather in a 12 rd fight, but not 15 rds.

Mayweather would have outskilled Hagler also.

You can't be serious? I don't post much and I'm never disrespectful but you can't be serious. Mayweather may have been competive, as skilled in ways but not better! I think he's more skilled and physically gifted than a Duran or Hagler but both of those guys beat him in a fight! Maybe he beats Duran, two out of three like Leonard but I doubt that because Leonard had to step into the fire to win and I don't see that from Floyd! He's a gifted fighter but its not his skill that keeps him out of the conversation with the greats, it's his heart!

[Barn]

Damn, can't argue w an OG's perspective.

Please acknowledge you've seen this man.