Tyson Fury would destroy Velazquez in boxing and MMA.

[mikinoki]

You can be 'world class' and a world champion in his backwards 'sport' in a mere 4 fights.

A roided up redneck from the damn WWE went in and became a world champion beating the likes of Heath Herring & a 90yr old Couture lollll

It's funny that you are a Rigondeaux fan and make that statement.
I guess Rugondeau had 7 fights when he got a title shot and Brock had 3.
Oh what a horrible sport.In the UFC Your fist do the talking not you're paded record.

[toshmurph]

Fury's leaving the octagon with a broken arm!

[mikinoki]

Wasn't K.J Noons hailed as the next big thing?
One punch k.o'd by a crackhead who learned to fight on the Street and had zero experience in MMA

Couldn't make it as a kickboxer, a boxer or an MMA fighter yet managed to beat several top P4P MMA fighters, laughable.

K.J Noons learned the other stiles that why hes succesfull.You guys forget that
boxing is part of mma.

[Weebler I]

little sugar **** ****quez isn't man enough to enter any squared circle with a warrior like tyson fury

[mikinoki]

little sugar **** ****quez isn't man enough to enter any squared circle with a warrior like tyson fury

Yeah but the real point here is neither are you

[Szef]

It's funny that you are a Rigondeaux fan and make that statement.
I guess Rugondeau had 7 fights when he got a title shot and Brock had 3.
Oh what a horrible sport.In the UFC Your fist do the talking not you're paded record.

The diffrence is Rigo is one of the greatest amateurs of all time. And he fought in a real combat sport. Not in some pretended freak shows with guys wearing latex costumes

[mikinoki]

The diffrence is Rigo is one of the greatest amateurs of all time. And he fought in a real combat sport. Not in some pretended freak shows with guys wearing latex outfits

I knew you unndeducated guys would make that statement.
Brock Lesnar was a high level amateur wrestler so it's not like he was given the world title.He took it just like Rigondeaux.

[billeau2]

Wrestlers, BJJ practitioners, guys with zero background in anything can do well in MMA but an at least bordering world class boxer can't? right.

Junior Dos Santos tore through the whole UFC roster with practically nothing but very basic boxing, being able to gauge distance. Most of these guys knew they'd get wrecked standing but they couldn't shoot because he controlled the distance with his jab & footwork.

The reality is if Fury learned how to sprawl he'd wreck any MMA chump and whats to say a boxer can't land? Or he doesn't time a kick/knee?

The reason these guys get taken down is because of their stance. Say what you like but you'll never see me getting double legged by a guy who shoots from a mile away.

Do you know how many wrestlers including a NCAA division champion I've seen unable to take a complete novice down let alone keep them there? I seen a novice under/over Jeff Monson & have him on his back ffs
Its because they don't know submission defense, they don't have to pace themselves etc etc

The reality is any clown can do MMA and they like to convince themselves its just like Street fighting and it makes 'em 'ard. Two bit, undisciplined bully boys only fit for picking on the weak for most part.

Did you not see a fat, 40yr old Mayorga who has virtually zero MMA training at the weekend who didn't even train for the fight? He more than held his own even on the ground he wasn't out of his depth but it wouldn't matter who he beat MMgAy fanboys would only say the MMA fighter was a bum anyway.

How the hell do you know what training Mayorga did? he always claim he didn't train. And he didn't jab his opponent to death, of even punch him standing, he fnished on the ground with a kick. If you do not believe Mayorga...a man who loves to fight BTW...didn't train then you are indeed as ****** as the rest of your post shows.

No MMA is not like street fighting BTW, so? No ring sport is like real combat thats a fact. Want to know another fact? Of all the idiots who claim to be proficient in Martial Arts? seldom if ever do any of these people know how to apply these techniques in a combat scenerio. What most people consider "martial " in application is closer to MMA and kickboxing actually. The mistake people make is in assuming that because people wrestle and act a certain way during combat that martial arts are useless. Real martial artists like people to have those assumptions. Point being MMA as a sport gives the practicioner an advantage over a boxer in a ring with MMA rules and vice versa.

[Szef]

I knew you unndeducated guys would make that statement.
Brock Lesnar was a high level amateur wrestler so it's not like he was given the world title.He took it just like Rigondeaux.

Yeah but Rigondeaux got his shot beacuse of his amateur career. Lesnar on the other hand got his shot beacuse of this


He would never have his chance beacuse he was good amateur wrestler, he joined UFC beacuse of his "career" in that circus for red necks called WWE

[billeau2]

Yeah but Rigondeaux got his shot beacuse of his amateur career. Lesnar on the other got his shot beacuse of this


He would never have his chance beacuse he was good amateur wrestler, he joined UFC beacuse of his "career" in that circus for red necks called WWE

You do know that WWE has one of the most repressive, rough, terminal training environments of any entertainment sport don't you? Most average sized individuals could not take the punishment, falls and routine that these steriod guzzlers have to go through...which is why the average life span of a wrestler is pretty short and why injuries...injuries which guys have to deal with while performing, are so devasating. Try taking those falls...take it from somneone very versed in falling, it ain't easy. there is actually a lot of skill involved in this entertainment venue.