Has a fighter that fights the top 3 guys ever been crapped on like Floyd?

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  • HeroBando
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    #201
    Originally posted by Big Dunn
    Actually he beat ODH for his 5th division title. Just like then he only went to 154 for the money. BUt it would be more of a challenge for him to fight bigger guys.

    I doubt he defends the 154 title because he is also the ww champ.
    OK so long as it's understood he's less than a legit champ in his 5th division. So far both of his 154 scalps were past prime guys that started at 140 or below. It's disappointing, with all his talent. Even the much less gifted, much less suited to moving up JMM took much greater risks in his 5th division.

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      #202
      Originally posted by junior gong
      No, thats an assumption based in butthurt. I dont rate these fights or the fact thats all he has done for 7 years because they are crap. I liked floyd before he started all this nonsense. His fans are arseholes and idiots for the most part...I mean how can any self respecting boxing fan spend so much time defending his farcical record over the last 7 years? This is what we should expect from the self proclaimed biggest 'star' in the sport??? GTFOH!
      the better question is why do you complain about it day in and day out. Since manny got destroyed you have been over the top.

      SO you evaluate the reume based on you not liking floyd and what he says about himself. thats ridiculous.

      Which ww has fought a better resume in the last 7 years IYO.

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        #203
        Originally posted by HeroBando
        OK so long as it's understood he's less than a legit champ in his 5th division. So far both of his 154 scalps were past prime guys that started at 140 or below. It's disappointing, with all his talent. Even the much less gifted, much less suited to moving up JMM took much greater risks in his 5th division.
        floyd's a legit champ at 154. he's beaten 2 champions at the max weight of the division for the title weighing considerably less than both guys. manny fought someone who was 1-1 at 154 in a CW for a vacant belt.

        I mean isn't there a huge difference?

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          #204
          Originally posted by Big Dunn
          so he gives guys who lose chances but notthe guys that win and thats ok because he fights twice a year rather than once like floyd.

          ok. that makes sense.
          Get a translator will you please. No matter who you beat there is someone else who is ready to fight and beat you, there is always someone else as floyd even said once.

          Lots of people come off wins so why does FLoyd only let one person fight him every 18-24 months? Pac also fights mostly people coming off of wins, but also people who arent coming off of wins can also beat you!
          Clottey came off a close loss to Cotto, some thought Clottey beat Cotto. Are you saying Clottey losing makes it impossible to beat Pac?

          The most dangerous thing Floyd does is train with no fight lined up. Im nearly like Floyd, i train also. Im closer to being like Floyd than pac thats for sure.

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            #205
            Originally posted by hugh grant
            Get a translator will you please. No matter who you beat there is someone else who is ready to fight and beat you, there is always someone else as floyd even said once.

            Lots of people come off wins so why does FLoyd only let one person fight him every 18-24 months? Pac also fights mostly people coming off of wins, but also people who arent coming off of wins can also beat you!
            Clottey came off a close loss to Cotto, some thought Clottey beat Cotto. Are you saying Clottey losing makes it impossible to beat Pac?

            The most dangerous thing Floyd does is train with no fight lined up. Im nearly like Floyd, i train also. Im closer to being like Floyd than pac thats for sure.
            get a translator?

            get a handler you twat, ******s shouldnt be allowed to run loose

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              #206
              haters gonna hate

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              • HeroBando
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                #207
                Originally posted by Big Dunn
                floyd's a legit champ at 154. he's beaten 2 champions at the max weight of the division for the title weighing considerably less than both guys. manny fought someone who was 1-1 at 154 in a CW for a vacant belt.

                I mean isn't there a huge difference?
                There is, but I think it's a matter of degrees, not qualitatively. Neither guy is a legit champ at the weight if he's unwilling to defend against all comers, cause they might be too big or whatever. I mean, only taking on 2 undersized, past prime guys at the weight, for belts, is like textbook cherrypicking, Calzaghe would be envious

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                  #208
                  Originally posted by hugh grant
                  Get a translator will you please. No matter who you beat there is someone else who is ready to fight and beat you, there is always someone else as floyd even said once.

                  Lots of people come off wins so why does FLoyd only let one person fight him every 18-24 months? Pac also fights mostly people coming off of wins, but also people who arent coming off of wins can also beat you!
                  Clottey came off a close loss to Cotto, some thought Clottey beat Cotto. Are you saying Clottey losing makes it impossible to beat Pac?

                  The most dangerous thing Floyd does is train with no fight lined up. Im nearly like Floyd, i train also. Im closer to being like Floyd than pac thats for sure.
                  of course you are closer to floyd- floyd didnt get KTFO and niether did you.

                  why floyd fights once a year-because he's 36 and makes enough that he can fight only once. I'm sure if floyd made only $20 mil he'd fight more times.

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                    #209
                    Originally posted by Big Dunn
                    the better question is why do you complain about it day in and day out. Since manny got destroyed you have been over the top.

                    SO you evaluate the reume based on you not liking floyd and what he says about himself. thats ridiculous.

                    Which ww has fought a better resume in the last 7 years IYO.
                    What the hell is this crap?? Manny has got **** all to do with it, I'm not even a fan of his for christ sake! I have been consistently critical of Floyd since all the fuckery with the CW in the JMM fight and the doing everything to avoid Manny BS. Nothing has changed in that regard because he has been a joke since then and now he is even fighting RG!!!

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                      #210
                      Originally posted by HeroBando
                      There is, but I think it's a matter of degrees, not qualitatively. Neither guy is a legit champ at the weight if he's unwilling to defend against all comers, cause they might be too big or whatever. I mean, only taking on 2 undersized, past prime guys at the weight, for belts, is like textbook cherrypicking, Calzaghe would be envious
                      ODH nor Cotto were undersized when they won the title nor when they defended against floyd. There is no way you can devalue those wins or compare manny's title to them.

                      Floyd hasn't defended the JMW title because he is a ww. same reason RJJ didn't defend the HWT title. But hey, I understand you have to devalue floyds JMW belt because you know manny's was cheap. Funny, but you didn't bring up the cheapness of the title when you called him an * division champ.

                      Your position also means manny's titles at 135, 140 and 154 are bogus. SO do you really mean this or are you just posting it for argumentts sake?

                      Your a good dude so I'll let you take it back.

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