Has a fighter that fights the top 3 guys ever been crapped on like Floyd?

[The Big Dunn]

So you agree with me that people crap on Floyd cos he dont work as hard and fight as much as his peers. It dont matter that Floyd fights top 3 rated guys, that is irrelevant. He fights top guys once every year and a half or so, not once a year like you claim. And then bloats them up to his weight, without returning the favour.

Just dont go around asking silly question like why do people crap on Floyd then we aint got a problem.



When Pac beat Cotto at 145 the general consensus was Pac would outclass Miguel at any weight and Pacs dumb for asking a CW. Just cos Pac hoped it would help him didnt mean to say it did. Its you pac haters job to make people think Pac couldnt beat him without a CW.
Jus cos people buy the lottery dont mean they will win. They may hope they will win, but dont mean they will.

hahahah this was one of your funnier responses dude.

Pac haters wouldn't have anything to say------wait for it---------if he didn't ask for a ****ing catchweight to begin with. Maybe you are right, maybe I'm right. But I know one thing that is an IRREFUTABLE FACT-manny didnt win either his WW or JMW title in a non catchweight fight

FYI, if you play the lottery you are trying to win-no one plays the lottery to lose.

[hugh grant]

hahahah this was one of your funnier responses dude.

Pac haters wouldn't have anything to say------wait for it---------if he didn't ask for a ****ing catchweight to begin with. Maybe you are right, maybe I'm right. But I know one thing that is an IRREFUTABLE FACT-manny didnt win either his WW or JMW title in a non catchweight fight

FYI, if you play the lottery you are trying to win-no one plays the lottery to lose.

Pac didnt win his WW or JMW without a CW, is that so? But hed win any fantasy fight with Cotto or Margarito so thats as good as Floyd, as fantasy fights is what Floyd usually wins.

But Pac beat clottey without a CW, and Clottey gave Cotto all the trouble in the world. Pac asked for CW cos of insecurity, dont hate him for that. When Floyd is insecure he dont fight as simple as that. He wont mention Sergios name or Canelo. Only talked about Pac when forced to.

[The Big Dunn]

Pac didnt win his WW or JMW without a CW, is that so? But hed win any fantasy fight with Cotto or Margarito so thats as good as Floyd, as fantasy fights is what Floyd usually wins.

But Pac beat clottey without a CW, and Clottey gave Cotto all the trouble in the world. Pac asked for CW cos of insecurity, dont hate him for that. When Floyd is insecure he dont fight as simple as that. He wont mention Sergios name or Canelo. Only talked about Pac when forced to.

Look man you can spin it anyway you want. He won at 145 and 151. Meanwhile, the truly great fighters win WW and JMW titles from champions who come in at the max of 147 and 154.

Manny's still a 1st ballot HOF'er and was FOTD. Just accept he couldn't do it like the truly great ones.

[HeroBando]

Meanwhile, the truly great fighters win WW and JMW titles from champions who come in at the max of 147 and 154.

How many did it in their 7th and 8th division? Zero. His closest competitor, Floyd, is too small for his 5th division, by his and his fans' admission.

[hugh grant]

Look man you can spin it anyway you want. He won at 145 and 151. Meanwhile, the truly great fighters win WW and JMW titles from champions who come in at the max of 147 and 154.

Manny's still a 1st ballot HOF'er and was FOTD. Just accept he couldn't do it like the truly great ones.

Ha ha Pac did a ton in the lower weights anyway. Floyd hasnt done anything like the truly great ones. They fought all comers often. Something Floyd dont know the meanin of, thats why people crap on him.

People dont hate Pac for the CWs as at least the fights were made and he fights often. People wont hate Pac for his insecurity and being humble. When Floyd is insecure he dont fight and then boasts about how great he is. But lets not get into that again.

[The Big Dunn]

How many did it in their 7th and 8th division? Zero. His closest competitor, Floyd, is too small for his 5th division, by his and his fans' admission.

of course every fighter hasnt had the luxury of fighting during the era with so many weight classes and so many sanctioning organizations to win a "world" title. we should be able to agree on that.

Manny won titles at ww and JMW with CW's. Its not going to hurt his credentials in any way. he still won titles in 8 divisions. But his fans can't act like it didn't happen.

Its really not that big a deal.

[The Big Dunn]

Ha ha Pac did a ton in the lower weights anyway. Floyd hasnt done anything like the truly great ones. They fought all comers often. Something Floyd dont know the meanin of, thats why people crap on him.

People dont hate Pac for the CWs as at least the fights were made and he fights often. People wont hate Pac for his insecurity and being humble. When Floyd is insecure he dont fight and then boasts about how great he is. But lets not get into that again.

I agree. Manny looked sensational against zab judah. He was masterful against Joan Guzman. How he handled Pwill was nothing short of a miracle. He solved the Zahir Raheem puzzle easy.

Perhaps manny hasn't fought all comers.

[hugh grant]

I agree. Manny looked sensational against zab judah. He was masterful against Joan Guzman. How he handled Pwill was nothing short of a miracle. He solved the Zahir Raheem puzzle easy.

Perhaps manny hasn't fought all comers.

Pac does fight all comers. If he didnt fight Paul Williams you can garantee pac fought someone of note. He didnt fight Raheem as he was busy with Morales, you may have heard of him, he was quite good once upon a time.

Pac does fight all comers, every six months. Floyd only musters up the energy once every 18months.

[Super_Lightweight]

Timing. Timing means something. Floyd has proven he is an all-time great. But, there are fights he did avoid.

Pacquiao - the timing was right, and it didn't happen.
Margarito - there was a time when this should've happened, and it passed (of course there's a shadow over Margarito's career to some extent due to the glove issue)

"I also blame him for not fighting martinez who has always said he would get himself down to 154 (a weight floyd has fought at before) to get the fight done. Whats floyds excuse? 'no one knows martinez' well who the fcuk knew Victor Ortiz?"

Also a good point ^^^^.

To Floyd's credit, he fight some guys in their prime who were quite good, such as Ricky Hatton, Jose Luis Castillo, and Zab Judah.

[The Big Dunn]

Pac does fight all comers. If he didnt fight Paul Williams you can garantee pac fought someone of note. He didnt fight Raheem as he was busy with Morales, you may have heard of him, he was quite good once upon a time.

Pac does fight all comers, every six months. Floyd only musters up the energy once every 18months.

zahir beat morales when he and manny were busy with each other. Its ok dude. Manny doesn't fight everyone. there are fights he didn't make same as floyd. you just pretend otherwise.