Has a fighter that fights the top 3 guys ever been crapped on like Floyd?

[HeroBando]

of course every fighter hasnt had the luxury of fighting during the era with so many weight classes and so many sanctioning organizations to win a "world" title. we should be able to agree on that.

Manny won titles at ww and JMW with CW's. Its not going to hurt his credentials in any way. he still won titles in 8 divisions. But his fans can't act like it didn't happen.

Its really not that big a deal.

And similarly, I'd give Floyd tons of credit if he took on Sergio at 158, say, for his 6th divisional belt. More credit than meeting him at 154, which is not a CW. But 154 would still get credit. What doesn't get any credit is ducking out of the fight altogether,

[The Big Dunn]

And similarly, I'd give Floyd tons of credit if he took on Sergio at 158, say, for his 6th divisional belt. More credit than meeting him at 154, which is not a CW. But 154 would still get credit. What doesn't get any credit is ducking out of the fight altogether,

true-cant believe manny didn't fight him at 150 like sergio asked.

Manny's genetic ability to fight in multiple weight classes is a great feat. Of course when you start at 112 there are for more weight classes above you.

Its like I told Hugh Grant. Manny nor floyd has fought everyone. If you say floyd ducked sergio than manny did same. if floyd ducked pwill manny did same. manny fought margs floyd fought zab niether fought the other.

can we move on now. hugh grant is a fringe floyd hater that is prone to these ridiculous discussions so I entertain myself. you , even though we dont agree, have always been reasonable IMO.

[Tuggers1986]

I really like Floyd but lets just look at this

His last 7 opponents ranging from 2006 - 2013.....

Cotto - Past His Best
Ortiz - Not on Floyds level at all
Mosley - Old Man
JMM - Blown Up Lightweight
Hatton - Natural 140lber and nowhere near Floyds Level
De La Hoya - Years and years past his best
Baldomir - Shouldnt even have been in the same ring as Floyd

Now tell me again that Floyd fights the best and you are unsure why he gets hate..........

[junior gong]

I really like Floyd but lets just look at this

His last 7 opponents ranging from 2006 - 2013.....

Cotto - Past His Best
Ortiz - Not on Floyds level at all
Mosley - Old Man
JMM - Blown Up Lightweight
Hatton - Natural 140lber and nowhere near Floyds Level
De La Hoya - Years and years past his best
Baldomir - Shouldnt even have been in the same ring as Floyd

Now tell me again that Floyd fights the best and you are unsure why he gets hate..........

Absolutely hit the nail on the head..We're talking 7 years here! That is absolutely pathetic for the so called best fighter on the planet.

[mathed]

He gets crap on because he didn't fight the best guy in his era. Everything he does now will be a step down from the pac fight. Fans are less excited for his fights because the anticipation for the pac fight is gone.

is it really that hard to understand. he didnt fight pac so hes gonna get crapped on. he shyd away from his biggest challenge and the biggest fight in his career so this is what its gonna be like for lil floyd

He says he is the best of all time but fights and talks like a fighter trying to evade father time. Pac, prime Cotto, prime Mosley, Margarito period, Williams....all guys that people would have loved to see him face but those fights never materialized.

Floyd is and was his own worst enemy but it doesn't matter, he is super rich and still doing his thing but the hate will never end for him.

[The Big Dunn]

I really like Floyd but lets just look at this

His last 7 opponents ranging from 2006 - 2013.....

Cotto - Past His Best
Ortiz - Not on Floyds level at all
Mosley - Old Man
JMM - Blown Up Lightweight
Hatton - Natural 140lber and nowhere near Floyds Level
De La Hoya - Years and years past his best
Baldomir - Shouldnt even have been in the same ring as Floyd

Now tell me again that Floyd fights the best and you are unsure why he gets hate..........

Cotto- not at his best but 10 lbs heavier than floyd; no CW
Ortiz-not on floyds level yet posters claimed he wouldn't fight a young, prime southpaw
Mosley - Old Man; posters said he would beat floyd and floyd was scared before fight; consensus #1 ww in world
JMM - Blown Up Lightweight; #2 p4p floyd coming off 16 month layoff
Hatton - Natural 140lber and nowhere near Floyds Level;top 5 p4p fighter and ww champ;posters said floyd afraid to fight him
De La Hoya - Years and years past his best;JMW champ 12-15lbs heavier than floyd
Baldomir - Shouldnt even have been in the same ring as Floyd; was lineal champ after beating zab; so floyd fought lineal champ

How things change after floyd wins.

[hugh grant]

Manny doesn't fight everyone. there are fights he didn't make same as floyd. you just pretend otherwise.

Stop prolonging this for Floyd, and the dislike of his proffesional boxing behaviour of not fighting much and taking it easy.

Dont matter who you beat there is always someone lining up to fight and beat you. At least Pac fights often giving as many people the opportunity to beat him. If it were up to Pac hed fight 3 times in one night. Floyd dont give people much opportuninties for people to fight and beat him now does he? If Pacs not making certain fights at least he is fighting someone else. If you fight you can lose, get it?

Dont go aruging with me again as you are butt hurt, dont keep putting Floyds behaviour out there for everyone to see and reminding people of it, i thought youd want to forget it.

[The Big Dunn]

Stop prolonging this for Floyd, and the dislike of his proffesional boxing behaviour of not fighting much and taking it easy.

Dont matter who you beat there is always someone lining up to fight and beat you. At least Pac fights often giving as many people the opportunity to beat him. If it were up to Pac hed fight 3 times in one night. Floyd dont give people much opportuninties for people to fight and beat him now does he? If Pacs not making certain fights at least he is fighting someone else. If you fight you can lose, get it?

Dont go aruging with me again as you are butt hurt, dont keep putting Floyds behaviour out there for everyone to see and reminding people of it, i thought youd want to forget it.

he gives everyone the opportunity except floyd, zab, pwill, sergio, guzman, and raheem.

[KO'er]

He never fought Margarito at the time he was hot. He fought Cotto after Cotto's prime years. He never fought PAC. And people now wanna see him fight Canelo, looks like we won't see that so I can see the anger some have towards him.

I agree completely.

[junior gong]

Cotto- not at his best but 10 lbs heavier than floyd; no CW
Ortiz-not on floyds level yet posters claimed he wouldn't fight a young, prime southpaw
Mosley - Old Man; posters said he would beat floyd and floyd was scared before fight; consensus #1 ww in world
JMM - Blown Up Lightweight; #2 p4p floyd coming off 16 month layoff
Hatton - Natural 140lber and nowhere near Floyds Level;[I]top 5 p4p fighter and ww champ;posters said floyd afraid to fight him[/B]
De La Hoya - Years and years past his best;JMW champ 12-15lbs heavier than floyd
Baldomir - Shouldnt even have been in the same ring as Floyd; was lineal champ after beating zab; so floyd fought lineal champ

How things change after floyd wins.

As regards Dunn's edits to the italics...

Cotto - irelevant and irelevant.
Ortiz - No, posters claimed he wouldnt fight a good southpaw, so he fought a known quitter who isnt that good.
Mosley - Only lunatics said that and lol
Marquez - Just stop
Hatton - top 5 p4p at that time was fair, looked like **** in his only fight at ww and noone except nutjobs said floyd was afraid - another flojob invention
DeLaHoya - not at all relevant
Baldomir -


Dunn, give it up man! Your Floyd fluffing is shameful.