Is this of any significance for Manny's legacy

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  • hectari
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    #21
    Originally posted by deejd
    It doesn't matter. You think anyone [outside of stans] really believes Mayweather ducked the guy that was knocked out by Marquez? Especially considering pac's refusal to agree to random drug testing in the first place.

    Choosing Bowe-Lewis is a terrible comparison.
    the majority of people think Floyd ducked Pacman or think he was ducking! are you serious?

    Pacman said he would take the tests stop bringing up the past, people move forward, than Floyd said he will not do business with Arum as the next road block.

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      #22
      The thread is addressing random drug testing pertaining to pac's legacy... in all likelihood, when looking back, most will remember his outright refusal to go through with random drug testing and the mere fact that his camp and chief trainer insinuated that his arch rival was using steroids.

      Here's an idea, incorporate random testing for the Bradley rematch. Or how about avoiding the guy that Mayweather pitched a no-hitter against. Then he won't be remembered for being the hype machine that once was.

      Let's get that Donaire train back on track, at least he's pro-random drug testing.

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        #23
        Originally posted by DeadLikeMe
        KTFO6 has had a noticeable impact on Manny's legacy. Moreso than running away from drug testing ever did imo.
        Exactly... That's what people remember thus far. Nobody except stans think Mayweather was ever ducking, especially after Marquez IV and all the allegations aimed at him prior to and after the fight.

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          #24
          Originally posted by hectari
          the majority of people think Floyd ducked Pacman or think he was ducking! are you serious?

          Pacman said he would take the tests stop bringing up the past, people move forward, than Floyd said he will not do business with Arum as the next road block.
          Take your rose colored glasses off kid , Manny was offered 50/50 and ran away on the back of a PEDS test , that was the only true negiotion they had and Manny DUCKED the fight .

          Dont bring up the past you say lol , Mannys past is full of ducking and special rules made to order for him , the WW hype job , history will not be kind because history evolves by fact not delusional fanboys like you .

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          • deejd
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            #25
            Originally posted by hectari
            the majority of people think Floyd ducked Pacman or think he was ducking! are you serious?

            Pacman said he would take the tests stop bringing up the past, people move forward, than Floyd said he will not do business with Arum as the next road block.
            Saying and doing are two different things.

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              #26
              Originally posted by deejd
              So why didn't he ever do random drug testing for any of his fights?
              So why doesn't all the other champs do random testing then???? They are no different! Pac agreed to WADA/USADA testing, that is a fact.

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                #27
                Originally posted by richardt
                So why doesn't all the other champs do random testing then???? They are no different! Pac agreed to WADA/USADA testing, that is a fact.
                A lot of them do; hence the rising number of positive tests via random drug testing.

                He may have agreed to them, but did he actually do random drug testing?

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by RapidFire_Royce
                  In spite of the fact that the testing is far behind the drugs being used, do you think anything will be said about the fact that Manny never got involved in the different testing methods that were being used by other boxers? (USADA, VADA).

                  Even if it was just posturing I think he could have really struck a blow to Floyd's testing demands if for any other fight he had testing done. In your opinion why do you think they never went this route?
                  Floyd went only in this route when he was about to fight Pac and that was on his 41 fights. Do we need to question his other 40 fights because he didn't go through this route?

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by deejd
                    Saying and doing are two different things.
                    Pac never ducked Floyd OST, he nogetiated for cut off days and Floyd all needs to do is to agree. To put it simply, "Yesterday Pac negotiated for cut off days but denied. Today he agreed to Floyd OST without cut off days but Floyd demanded he won't get a single cent from ppv buys." My point is....Floydiots keep bringing up yesterday (past) when all that matters is today. When Floyd demanded (today) he should get 100% of the PPV sales = killing the possible fight permanently.
                    Last edited by straightleft; 04-26-2013, 08:29 PM.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by straightleft
                      Pac never ducked Floyd OST, he nogetiated for cut off days and Floyd all needs to do is to agree. To put it simply, "Yesterday Pac negotiated for cut off days but denied. Today he agreed to Floyd OST without cut off days but Floyd demanded he won't get a single cent from ppv buys." My point is....Floydiots keep bringing up yesterday (past) when all that matters is today. When Floyd demanded (today) he should get 100% of the PPV sales = killing the possible fight permanently.
                      So has pac ever actually done random drug testing?

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