Is this of any significance for Manny's legacy

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  • deejd
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    #121
    Originally posted by ColdCa$hCanelo
    knowing the timeframe in which you are to be tested is not in any way random.



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    If there's 60 days out from the test and the teacher says there will be pop quizzes along the way without disclosing the exact dates they'd be issued in that span; yes, that's random.

    The comprehension level on NSB is pathetic.

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    • chito
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      #122
      until now majority of the professional boxers don't do PEDS test. so the ans. is no, it won't have any significance to manny's legacy

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      • richardt
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        #123
        Originally posted by RapidFire_Royce
        Richard the reason why I didn't ask this about any of the other champions is because none of them have the fame and accomplishments that paq has.

        Honestly I think there are a lot of people using. And like I said in my first post there is a high likelihood that the test they are using now won't catch the latest and greatest drugs.

        What I am asking is will it make a difference that he never took a test? will we care? And my personal opinion is that he could have shut Floyd and his entire team up about testing if in the very next fight after the Floyd stuff fell apart he tested. Then there would be no way Floyd could still run around saying he didn't accept testing.
        Again, this goes back to a time when PEDS were not the issue they are today and Pac owed nothing to Floyd over false accusations that Floyd ended up being sued over. The only thing that will hurt his legacy will also hurt Floyds and that is the obstacles they both put up to a fight between them. If Pac had used substances of any kind over his career, something would have turned up. If every champ was currently testing and he wasn't, then he stand out. He doesn't.

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          #124
          Originally posted by MindBat
          Oh bummer! Manny asked the court to kick his ass for millions less than he could've done it himself for. Real smart.
          For all you know, Floyd could have paid millions to Pac. Floyd was sued, Pac won. Floyd came crawling to Pac to settle out of court and had to issue a public apology. Live with it. End.

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          • Juanma9
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            #125
            Originally posted by RapidFire_Royce
            In spite of the fact that the testing is far behind the drugs being used, do you think anything will be said about the fact that Manny never got involved in the different testing methods that were being used by other boxers? (USADA, VADA).

            Even if it was just posturing I think he could have really struck a blow to Floyd's testing demands if for any other fight he had testing done. In your opinion why do you think they never went this route?
            I hate to disrespect a fighter without proof, but if a fighter refuses testing I got to think that something is going on.

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              #126
              Originally posted by deejd
              If there's 60 days out from the test and the teacher says there will be pop quizzes along the way without disclosing the exact dates they'd be issued in that span; yes, that's random.

              The comprehension level on NSB is pathetic.
              Sure is, considering you don't even understand what constitutes random drug testing in sports.

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              • RapidFire_Royce
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                #127
                Originally posted by richardt
                Again, this goes back to a time when PEDS were not the issue they are today and Pac owed nothing to Floyd over false accusations that Floyd ended up being sued over. The only thing that will hurt his legacy will also hurt Floyds and that is the obstacles they both put up to a fight between them. If Pac had used substances of any kind over his career, something would have turned up. If every champ was currently testing and he wasn't, then he stand out. He doesn't.
                I see your point but I think you understate his position in the sport by comparing him to other champions. Manny stands out by simply being Manny, name one other Champion (besides the obvious) who is averaging a Million ppv buys a fight? has the resume that he has?

                Really I just don't see what kept him from jumping on the Lets clean up boxing band wagon. I wonder with the speculation around Marquez would he ask for testing if they were to have a fifth fight.

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                • MASTERBX
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                  #128
                  Yep, The same boxing journalist that are praising him now
                  will be bashing him for it five years from now. Hell some
                  are already doing indirectly by praising donaire.

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                    #129
                    Originally posted by richardt
                    Again, this goes back to a time when PEDS were not the issue they are today and Pac owed nothing to Floyd over false accusations that Floyd ended up being sued over. The only thing that will hurt his legacy will also hurt Floyds and that is the obstacles they both put up to a fight between them. If Pac had used substances of any kind over his career, something would have turned up. If every champ was currently testing and he wasn't, then he stand out. He doesn't.
                    Pac owed it to himself to compete in the biggest fight in history for the biggest prize of his career , a PEDS test is nothing to run away from , the price for the prize was nothing and to walk away is PURE DUCK .

                    Manny DUCKED Floyd or he DUCKED a PEDS test , welcome to duck dynasty , Manny style , fooled his fanboys but didnt fool karma !

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                    • ronnie_N.
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                      #130
                      i think floyd demanding random testing after having 40 pro fights has much more significance on his legacy... he only blurt out this "testing" issues when a possible fight between him and manny was beginning to gain steam... i believe no fighter, in any sport, has fear.. but i doubt floyd... he's shook... i know floyd will make an easy work w/ manny... but the man is shook...

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