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  • ADP02
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    #351
    Originally posted by RapidFire_Royce
    No ideas? lol. Well I think he does feel a certain way about how Marquez performed in their last fight but rather than making accusations (not smart) he would rather start having testing be apart of his fights.

    People need to realize that there is NO other sport where the charge to test its participants have been led by the participants themselves. This is not commissions or sanctioning bodies promoters or managers calling for better testing these are the fighters themselves. I am glad to see Manny join the movement just wondering what took him so long.
    Not a big deal .... I have no problem agreeing with you that it may have had something to do with Marquez and now Rios hiring the controversial "conditioning coach" Heredia who admitted to cheating ..... but didn't Heredia say that he is ahead of the game when it comes to beating any form of the current testing protocol?

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      #352
      Originally posted by Ray*
      I don't think Floyd Mayweather jr accuse Manny Pacquiao of taking PED while they were negotiating for the fight, they came together to make the fight, Team Pac made their demands while Team Mayweather also made its demand. The accusation blew up due to Pac accepting then going back and refusing which made the whole episode look su****ious.
      They were doing it well before the negotiations started ... go check out Floyd Sr interviews for starters .... Floyd Jr, Roger and Floyd Sr would pretty much say the same things .... they were all accusing.

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      • Sugar Adam Ali
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        #353
        Mainstream Media like ESPN and Fox Sports wont care about the testing stuff 20 years from now.

        BUT US BOXING JUNKIES TYPING AWAY ON OUR BOXING FORUMS WILL STILL BE ARGUING ABOUT IT.
        IT WILL BE A TIMELESS DEBATE MUCH LIKE TITO VS OSCAR, TYSON OVERRATED, ROY JONES OVERRATED

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        • RapidFire_Royce
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          #354
          Originally posted by ADP02
          Not a big deal .... I have no problem agreeing with you that it may have had something to do with Marquez and now Rios hiring the controversial "conditioning coach" Heredia who admitted to cheating ..... but didn't Heredia say that he is ahead of the game when it comes to beating any form of the current testing protocol?
          Yeah thats the other side to this that does make you wonder what can be done. Even if these guys are starting to take tests if the latest and greatest drugs can already bypass those tests then what else could be done.

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          • Charles Ramsey
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            #355
            Manny's legacy is set already.

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            • maguirre
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              #356
              Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali
              Mainstream Media like ESPN and Fox Sports wont care about the testing stuff 20 years from now.

              BUT US BOXING JUNKIES TYPING AWAY ON OUR BOXING FORUMS WILL STILL BE ARGUING ABOUT IT.
              IT WILL BE A TIMELESS DEBATE MUCH LIKE TITO VS OSCAR, TYSON OVERRATED, ROY JONES OVERRATED
              Floyd tested positive three times and it didn't even stir any ripple in the mainstream media. And here are these clowns telling me Pacman's legacy is tainted because of the testing issue. The accusers had four years to prove his guilt in court. Nothing. Pacman was on 60 minutes honoring him. Same show with a Barack ***** segment. I was waiting for the peds issue to come up there was none. If you want a definition of mainstream, it's 60 minutes. Keep fooling yourselves, though.

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              • RapidFire_Royce
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                #357
                Originally posted by Cgarcia
                Floyd tested positive three times and it didn't even stir any ripple in the mainstream media. And here are these clowns telling me Pacman's legacy is tainted because of the testing issue. The accusers had four years to prove his guilt in court. Nothing. Pacman was on 60 minutes honoring him. Same show with a Barack ***** segment. I was waiting for the peds issue to come up there was none. If you want a definition of mainstream, it's 60 minutes. Keep fooling yourselves, though.
                I think this never did anything in the mainstream media because no solid proof every came out that this happened. I remember Gabriel Montoya claimed to have NSAC sources to substantiate the 3 failed test claim but nothing else came from it. I honestly can't recall, did anyone other than Gabriel offer any evidence to support his claim? Did he ever talk about what happened to his sources?

                Really my question is what evidence do you look at with this 3 failed test situation that makes you believe it is 100% true? Now I'm not saying this is false clearly their have been some cover up attempts in the sport. I just wonder what makes you believe this so strongly with such little evidence?

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