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  • #81
    Originally posted by bosdurgen View Post
    Who's Mega fights/undercards was Canelo on??? That's right Floyd Mayweather! Floyd came up the hard way.. No one knew who Canelo was until he fought on Floyd's undercard when floyd fought Mosley.. Two or three undercards later and Canelo is trying to give demands to the fighter that pretty much made him famous.lol
    Lmaol omg some people are just plain ******. If there is a reason why pbf gets more additional numbers is because canelo was there. The kid was already big in all latin america. Canelo needed to be on mayweather undercards???? He just prove last weekend he dont give a ****. Tell me who needed him more canelo or pbf. Obviously canelo didnt and mayweather really wanted him there. Remember last fight the kid did his own fight in a different city but floyd worked out a deal. Dude you are just so dumb and ****** really. Look at all business analist when they heard the news about canelo going to make his own show it did hurt pbf. And he will still do good but not as good with canelo in there thats a fact

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    • #82
      It looks like GBP will have to do something about trying to make Canelo and Mayweather happy in the future. Canelo wants the Mexican holidays so that he can fight on those days and so does Mayweather.

      I understand why Canelo would like to fight on those days he knows he can sell out an arena and would like to sell his own PPV events.

      Mayweather has that six fight deal with Showtime so Mayweather plans on fighting two times a year. Which is May 5th weekends and september 16th weekends which is Mexico's independence day

      GBP is going to have to try to make this work with Mayweather and Canelo. If the give in to Canelo they will lose a lot of money not just with Floyd but with Al Haymon and all the fighters that he works with.

      GBP is not going to do that Canelo is going to have to take the back seat again trust me.

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      • #83
        Originally posted by 4Corners View Post
        Not really.....it takes two to tango. And how many times has Oscar sold over 1 million PPV's.....4 times and 2 of those were with Floyd and Manny themselves. Floyd has sold over 1 million 5 times, and over 1.5 or more twice.

        Looks aside, Canelo was handed everything in his career. Floyd earned becoming a draw the hard way, and to fight Oscar he had to give up everything. Canelo should do the same. Watch Canelo ask for 50-50 which is INSANE. The kid has still never headlined a PPV in his life.
        And yet Canelo already Making Millions filling arenas...compared to floyd @ that age.

        From the ESPN article announcing the Canelo/Trout fight:
        "Mayweather said he would but wouldn’t put his signature to it. Alvarez rightfully felt that without a written guarantee there was no reason for him to lend his name, star power and economic muscle to Mayweather’s pay-per-view.
        But without that guarantee, Alvarez basically said to hell with Mayweather and I don’t blame him.
        “Mayweather has no word to support what he says. The contract was already within the terms and just was missing the signature,” Alvarez said. “He said yes, but nothing happened at the end. Floyd never signed anything. But in spite of all that I am happy with my fight and my own date. This is what I wanted from the beginning. "

        Mayweather's people told Canelo's they would fight in the fall if they both won on May 4th. His people and Golden Boy have stated this multiple times. When it came time to get that in writing Floyd said no. Floyd's people tried to play Canelo and it didn't work.

        Exctly and I don't see Mayweather ever refutting what Canelo claims.

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        • #84
          Bring on Canelo. Dude will gas out on the way to the presser.

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          • #85
            The race card thing is played out. It's obviously not hurting Floyd now. The issue pre-ODLH is that no one knew who Floyd was (in terms of personality). Look at other black fighters of the past and measure their success in connecting with the public, Tyson, SRL to name two. The public was able to connect with them from an early age, much like is what is now being attempted with Canelo. Adrien Broner if he continues to show progression in the ring, will definitely sell and he himself is pulling a Mayweather 2.0.
            Last edited by switchsouthpaw; 04-24-2013, 11:02 AM.

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            • #86
              Originally posted by Ringlife View Post
              It looks like GBP will have to do something about trying to make Canelo and Mayweather happy in the future. Canelo wants the Mexican holidays so that he can fight on those days and so does Mayweather.

              I understand why Canelo would like to fight on those days he knows he can sell out an arena and would like to sell his own PPV events.

              Mayweather has that six fight deal with Showtime so Mayweather plans on fighting two times a year. Which is May 5th weekends and september 16th weekends which is Mexico's independence day

              GBP is going to have to try to make this work with Mayweather and Canelo. If the give in to Canelo they will lose a lot of money not just with Floyd but with Al Haymon and all the fighters that he works with.

              GBP is not going to do that Canelo is going to have to take the back seat again trust me.
              I doubt it. If your Golden Boy who do you care about most? Canelo, the biggest mexican draw who will be a star for the next 10-12 years, or Floyd who fights Andre Berto's leftovers and could retire at any moment? You think if given the choice Golden Boy or Showtime will chose Floyd vs. Alexander over Canelo vs Cotto on Mexican Independence day?
              Personally I think its a mute point, just because Ellerbe says Floyd wants to fight in September doesn't mean it will happen. Floyd has said he would fight multiple times a year for a while now. Hasn't happened since 2007.

              And what exactly is Al Haymon going to do? Take Austin Trout and Danny Garcia to HBO? They won't work with him, he has no choice but to work with Golden Boy, they need each other.

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              • #87
                Originally posted by QballLobo View Post
                Canelo realizes that Floyd doesn't have the sack to get in the ring with him. They tried to play him to get him to help Floyd's PPV's and it didn't work.
                Good move by him. He is basically telling Floyd sign the fight like you said you would or find another date.
                You think Golden Boy (and Showtime) would rather have Floyd vs Alexander or Canelo/Cotto on Mexican Independence day?
                How many PPV has Canelo headlined?? Oh AIGHT

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                • #88
                  Originally posted by bosdurgen View Post
                  He didn't sell out venues or events because he wasn't hyped up at all! Like I said any Mexicans can sell out an aren/stadium in a city that is majority Mexican.. Mexicans have the biggest fan base in boxing so of course they support their own and sell out stadiums with cheap ticket prices.. Blacks on the other hand don't have as much support in boxing because most are supporting athletes in more main stream sports such as basketball and football.. I'd rather be 22 with all the style & skills to eventually be the best boxer in the world (Floyd) Then to be a hyped up 22 year old who gets tired after 6 rounds who won his 1st title in a vacant match up against a welter weight.. A man thats 42-0 just coming off of my first fight with someone thats in the top ten in my division and really only hyped because of my nationality. (canelo)
                  Beating an old genaro hernandez cool man. He beat a top fighter in trout im sorry it looks like your black and hate on mexican boxers tell me what is tour criteria on broner???? Would like to hear your biased opinion on him. Dont know what your talking about mexicos bigger sport is soccer and they still support their people. Just pbf is not what other blacks like i like his style not black though but just the way it is. Looked at mike tyson ohh **** but according to you he was mexican cause he selled out right lmaol. Look at tigondeaux for example top p4p where is his support thats just the way it is.

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                  • #89
                    Originally posted by Queen_Leia View Post
                    While it not going to happen so he should keep the belt and fight fighters in his own divisions. He would actually be dropping two belts (WBA regular and WBC)...do you really think he would do that.
                    -Like it or not while Floyd holds the WBA belt at 154 he is a fighter in his
                    division. If Floyd chooses not to fight at 154 Canelo will be upgraded to full
                    champ.
                    -If Floyd-Canelo fight happens in September and the WBC forces Canelo to fight
                    Lara(which wont happen fair or unfair it's all bout the $$$$ for uncle Jose) no
                    doubt Canelo would drop the belt he stands to make far more $$$ off of a Floyd
                    fight.

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                    • #90
                      Originally posted by QballLobo View Post
                      I doubt it. If your Golden Boy who do you care about most? Canelo, the biggest mexican draw who will be a star for the next 10-12 years, or Floyd who fights Andre Berto's leftovers and could retire at any moment? You think if given the choice Golden Boy or Showtime will chose Floyd vs. Alexander over Canelo vs Cotto on Mexican Independence day?
                      Personally I think its a mute point, just because Ellerbe says Floyd wants to fight in September doesn't mean it will happen. Floyd has said he would fight multiple times a year for a while now. Hasn't happened since 2007.

                      And what exactly is Al Haymon going to do? Take Austin Trout and Danny Garcia to HBO? They won't work with him, he has no choice but to work with Golden Boy, they need each other.
                      Broner is with Haymon, Sante Cruz is with Haymon, so is Thurman, Gary Russell and a whole bunch of other fighters. And Mayweather has a history with selling a million plus PPV's and how many has Canelo sold?? oh aight then!!

                      If canelo was a remote draw for PPV you don't think Golden Boy would try to capitalize on that?? Are they don't care about making extra money?? Get outta here with that. Come Sept 14th I bet Mayweather fights on PPV with or without canelo now can we say the same for canelo??

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