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It looks like GBP will have to do something about trying to make Canelo and Mayweather happy in the future. Canelo wants the Mexican holidays so that he can fight on those days and so does Mayweather.
I understand why Canelo would like to fight on those days he knows he can sell out an arena and would like to sell his own PPV events.
Mayweather has that six fight deal with Showtime so Mayweather plans on fighting two times a year. Which is May 5th weekends and september 16th weekends which is Mexico's independence day
GBP is going to have to try to make this work with Mayweather and Canelo. If the give in to Canelo they will lose a lot of money not just with Floyd but with Al Haymon and all the fighters that he works with.
GBP is not going to do that Canelo is going to have to take the back seat again trust me.
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Originally posted by 4Corners View PostNot really.....it takes two to tango. And how many times has Oscar sold over 1 million PPV's.....4 times and 2 of those were with Floyd and Manny themselves. Floyd has sold over 1 million 5 times, and over 1.5 or more twice.
Looks aside, Canelo was handed everything in his career. Floyd earned becoming a draw the hard way, and to fight Oscar he had to give up everything. Canelo should do the same. Watch Canelo ask for 50-50 which is INSANE. The kid has still never headlined a PPV in his life.
From the ESPN article announcing the Canelo/Trout fight:
"Mayweather said he would but wouldn’t put his signature to it. Alvarez rightfully felt that without a written guarantee there was no reason for him to lend his name, star power and economic muscle to Mayweather’s pay-per-view.
But without that guarantee, Alvarez basically said to hell with Mayweather and I don’t blame him.
“Mayweather has no word to support what he says. The contract was already within the terms and just was missing the signature,” Alvarez said. “He said yes, but nothing happened at the end. Floyd never signed anything. But in spite of all that I am happy with my fight and my own date. This is what I wanted from the beginning. "
Mayweather's people told Canelo's they would fight in the fall if they both won on May 4th. His people and Golden Boy have stated this multiple times. When it came time to get that in writing Floyd said no. Floyd's people tried to play Canelo and it didn't work.
Exctly and I don't see Mayweather ever refutting what Canelo claims.
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The race card thing is played out. It's obviously not hurting Floyd now. The issue pre-ODLH is that no one knew who Floyd was (in terms of personality). Look at other black fighters of the past and measure their success in connecting with the public, Tyson, SRL to name two. The public was able to connect with them from an early age, much like is what is now being attempted with Canelo. Adrien Broner if he continues to show progression in the ring, will definitely sell and he himself is pulling a Mayweather 2.0.Last edited by switchsouthpaw; 04-24-2013, 11:02 AM.
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Originally posted by Ringlife View PostIt looks like GBP will have to do something about trying to make Canelo and Mayweather happy in the future. Canelo wants the Mexican holidays so that he can fight on those days and so does Mayweather.
I understand why Canelo would like to fight on those days he knows he can sell out an arena and would like to sell his own PPV events.
Mayweather has that six fight deal with Showtime so Mayweather plans on fighting two times a year. Which is May 5th weekends and september 16th weekends which is Mexico's independence day
GBP is going to have to try to make this work with Mayweather and Canelo. If the give in to Canelo they will lose a lot of money not just with Floyd but with Al Haymon and all the fighters that he works with.
GBP is not going to do that Canelo is going to have to take the back seat again trust me.
Personally I think its a mute point, just because Ellerbe says Floyd wants to fight in September doesn't mean it will happen. Floyd has said he would fight multiple times a year for a while now. Hasn't happened since 2007.
And what exactly is Al Haymon going to do? Take Austin Trout and Danny Garcia to HBO? They won't work with him, he has no choice but to work with Golden Boy, they need each other.
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Originally posted by QballLobo View PostCanelo realizes that Floyd doesn't have the sack to get in the ring with him. They tried to play him to get him to help Floyd's PPV's and it didn't work.
Good move by him. He is basically telling Floyd sign the fight like you said you would or find another date.
You think Golden Boy (and Showtime) would rather have Floyd vs Alexander or Canelo/Cotto on Mexican Independence day?
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Originally posted by bosdurgen View PostHe didn't sell out venues or events because he wasn't hyped up at all! Like I said any Mexicans can sell out an aren/stadium in a city that is majority Mexican.. Mexicans have the biggest fan base in boxing so of course they support their own and sell out stadiums with cheap ticket prices.. Blacks on the other hand don't have as much support in boxing because most are supporting athletes in more main stream sports such as basketball and football.. I'd rather be 22 with all the style & skills to eventually be the best boxer in the world (Floyd) Then to be a hyped up 22 year old who gets tired after 6 rounds who won his 1st title in a vacant match up against a welter weight.. A man thats 42-0 just coming off of my first fight with someone thats in the top ten in my division and really only hyped because of my nationality. (canelo)
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Originally posted by Queen_Leia View PostWhile it not going to happen so he should keep the belt and fight fighters in his own divisions. He would actually be dropping two belts (WBA regular and WBC)...do you really think he would do that.
division. If Floyd chooses not to fight at 154 Canelo will be upgraded to full
champ.
-If Floyd-Canelo fight happens in September and the WBC forces Canelo to fight
Lara(which wont happen fair or unfair it's all bout the $$$$ for uncle Jose) no
doubt Canelo would drop the belt he stands to make far more $$$ off of a Floyd
fight.
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Originally posted by QballLobo View PostI doubt it. If your Golden Boy who do you care about most? Canelo, the biggest mexican draw who will be a star for the next 10-12 years, or Floyd who fights Andre Berto's leftovers and could retire at any moment? You think if given the choice Golden Boy or Showtime will chose Floyd vs. Alexander over Canelo vs Cotto on Mexican Independence day?
Personally I think its a mute point, just because Ellerbe says Floyd wants to fight in September doesn't mean it will happen. Floyd has said he would fight multiple times a year for a while now. Hasn't happened since 2007.
And what exactly is Al Haymon going to do? Take Austin Trout and Danny Garcia to HBO? They won't work with him, he has no choice but to work with Golden Boy, they need each other.
If canelo was a remote draw for PPV you don't think Golden Boy would try to capitalize on that?? Are they don't care about making extra money?? Get outta here with that. Come Sept 14th I bet Mayweather fights on PPV with or without canelo now can we say the same for canelo??
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