Canelo, Martinez vs Mayweather: When weight matters

[White_Knight]

I have another example to add:

Pacquiao weighed only 84.8% of what Margarito did when he beat him (Marg 165, Pac 148).

[mezoomozaa]

Mayweather beats Alvarez in a very easy fight with 12-0 or 11-1 scorecard .
Martinez murders Alvarez in the ring !


I gave Alvarez a better chance against Mayweather before today's fight , but after watching Alvarez against Trout , I am 100% sure he is going to be embarrassed by Mayweather .

[loui_ludwig]

Any proof that Floyd weigh in around 150 during fight night? I am not talking about before he retire. I mean His last 2 fights with Ortiz and Cotto.

[HeroBando]

Any proof that Floyd weigh in around 150 during fight night? I am not talking about before he retire. I mean His last 2 fights with Ortiz and Cotto.

Here's for Ortiz:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...log/index.html

AFAIK that's the only time he stepped on the HBO scale since coming out of retirement

[joesaiditstrue]

yeah because Floyd looks any different during the weigh in than in the ring

lol

[ADP02]

When did Manny fight a guy with a 20lb weight advantage? Even lottery didn't have that advantage. Neither did Margarito. And once again, I never said I had a problem with this fight. I don't. If it happens it happens. Should Floyd have to take it? No. Should he? Yes. But like I said, u wanna talk about weight like it doesn't matter, when its the only thing that gives u a chance in a fight, then it is the determining factor. So weight matters and a 20lb weight advantage shouldn't be ignored like its some little thing. Its not. Its all the difference between life and death. But that's what j get when u have keyboard warriors who have never stepped in the ring themselves. Its more like play for them. And its easy to ignore the truth.

Just like you are looking at the possibility that Canelo can come in 15-20lbs more there was that possibility that guys like Clottey, Margarito, .... could have as well. Didn't Clottey come in at 170 against Corrales?

So Manny still fought them guys that were much bigger than him and where there was the possibility of having his opponents come in at 15-20lbs more than him. Floyd has said he can fight and beat anyone at 147 and 154. So if someone can make 154 then it doesn't matter how much they come in on fight night. It's not against the rules.

Weight matters, power matters, skills matter .... like I said IT ALL MATTERS!!! When Gatti lost to Baldomir at WW, was it because Baldomir was more skilled? No, he was built more like a tank and that made him win. Was it fair? Well, it depends on how you look at it. If you fight at WW then you need to beat everyone at WW not just those who you think you can beat. Same with Floyd at JMW.

We just went from Floyd can't at 160 against Martinez to Floyd can't fight Martinez at 154 because Martinez has not fought at 154 in years to Floyd can't fight a 154lb Canelo who has been primarily fighting smaller WWs. So Josesito Lopez, a recent JWW can fight Canelo but Floyd for some reason can't according to the "protect Floyd at all cost" fans of his ..... lol!

Again, should Floyd be cherry picking even though he has fought at 154 twice and they have said that he could beat anyone at 147 and 154?

Final point is that Floyd's team had always said that its skills not size that pays the bills when referring to big guys will beat Floyd..... now it's a different story?

[Deeznuts]

Of course weight matters, why do you think Floyd continues to fight smaller guys (Marquez/Guerrero)

[Mayweather41-0]

Canelo is much thicker and bulkier than Floyd is and Floyd's legs are getting worse everyday I just want to see them fight I think Canelo can do some serious damage to Floyd and possibly win. Mayweather-Canelo aint going to happen until May 2014 though imo I think Canelo is going to fight Cotto in the fall.

[Jack Napier]

fuck Martinez, the guy is a MW
he's been there too long to come down to JMW at this point
never understood the talk of him going back down for a Floyd fight
Martinez hasn't exactly wowed with his MW opposition
there's not much there but he could do better than he has
nothing wrong with Floyd-Alvarez though, it's just fine

[HeroBando]

yeah because Floyd looks any different during the weigh in than in the ring

lol

You think he looked 5lb bigger, or less, vs Marquez?